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it happens in the uk as well as the us - university lecturers are bribed by the publishers.

Tainnor 3y ago
Do you have any evidence specifically about lecturers being bribed? Because there could be a whole other range of other explanations for why this practice continues.
- zabzonk 3y ago
  working for two uk universities. and this not the only stuff these corrupt people got up to - one had the cheek to photocopy his own (crap) book using free to him university copiers, and then make his students pay for the copies. nothing was done about it, of course.
  - Tainnor 3y ago
    That's of course deplorable. But it just feels to me that if it happens so regularly, there must be some systemic causes and not just instances of invidual educators being bribed
    - zabzonk 3y ago
      what other reason can there be for very, very bad authors have new editions of books come out every year and get enforced on students by tenured clowns?
      - Tainnor 3y ago
        Well, instead of individual educators the blame could be on faculties or whole universities who maybe strike deals with publishers.
bsder 3y ago
> it happens in the uk as well as the us - university lecturers are bribed by the publishers. I really, really, really wish people would quit repeating this without evidence. Maybe ... maybe ... this is true for some huge name who can force the adoption of some huge number of textbooks. Maybe. However, for any random lecturer who teaches an upper level technical class, the maximum level of revenue any seller can expect from that class is probably about $200 x 50 students = $10,000. Where the hell is the bribe money going to come out of that? By the way, last I checked, the publishers wouldn't even let us keep the sample copy they sent to us. Yeah, they're that cheap. And do you really think that your technical lecturer/professor or anybody in the publisher is going to risk going taking potentially illegal behavior for $1000? If your lecturer/professor is that money driven, they would be better off simply not taking an underpaid, overworked position teaching your sorry ass and instead teach the same technical material to professionals who will pay more than your semester tuition for a one-week program. Now, if you want to talk about the publishers bribing government bureaucrats over high school textbooks, that is an entirely different and completely documented thing.

Do you have any evidence specifically about lecturers being bribed? Because there could be a whole other range of other explanations for why this practice continues.

zabzonk 3y ago
working for two uk universities. and this not the only stuff these corrupt people got up to - one had the cheek to photocopy his own (crap) book using free to him university copiers, and then make his students pay for the copies. nothing was done about it, of course.
- Tainnor 3y ago
  That's of course deplorable. But it just feels to me that if it happens so regularly, there must be some systemic causes and not just instances of invidual educators being bribed
  - zabzonk 3y ago
    what other reason can there be for very, very bad authors have new editions of books come out every year and get enforced on students by tenured clowns?
    - Tainnor 3y ago
      Well, instead of individual educators the blame could be on faculties or whole universities who maybe strike deals with publishers.

bsder 3y ago

> it happens in the uk as well as the us - university lecturers are bribed by the publishers. I really, really, really wish people would quit repeating this without evidence. Maybe ... maybe ... this is true for some huge name who can force the adoption of some huge number of textbooks. Maybe. However, for any random lecturer who teaches an upper level technical class, the maximum level of revenue any seller can expect from that class is probably about $200 x 50 students = $10,000. Where the hell is the bribe money going to come out of that? By the way, last I checked, the publishers wouldn't even let us keep the sample copy they sent to us. Yeah, they're that cheap. And do you really think that your technical lecturer/professor or anybody in the publisher is going to risk going taking potentially illegal behavior for $1000? If your lecturer/professor is that money driven, they would be better off simply not taking an underpaid, overworked position teaching your sorry ass and instead teach the same technical material to professionals who will pay more than your semester tuition for a one-week program. Now, if you want to talk about the publishers bribing government bureaucrats over high school textbooks, that is an entirely different and completely documented thing.