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When we can buy second hand electric cars _with reliable batteries that aren’t near end of life_ for 2k, we can have a discussion. Arguments of affordability be
by ghusto 3y ago
When we can buy second hand electric cars _with reliable batteries that aren’t near end of life_ for 2k, we can have a discussion. Arguments of affordability before that point will rely on cherry picking, and I call bullshit on every one of them.
I know many people pay way more for cars, even buying ones they can’t afford with loans, but most of the people I know aren’t in that group.
- drivingmenuts 3y agoI agree. Until there’s a cheap electric option, the bulk of drivers won’t switch. Their car is paid for, or mostly so, it works and. With some payout, can be kept running indefinitely. It’s easy to convince rich people to buy into EVs, but try getting the people who can’t afford to blow a huge chunk of money on something that has less range, less perceived power and can’t be fixed by a cousin under a tree.
- throwaway5959 3y agoThe average new car price in the US is around $47k, well above the Bolt, Kona and Leaf.
- mint2 3y agoare you saying that cost shouldn’t be a critique until the market as matured? Because of course a new product still being rolled out doesn’t have a good second hand market. It’s not reasonable to expect that.
- Kirby64 3y agoWhat ICE car can you buy that fits that criteria for 2k? Anything that’s only 2k for a car these days has north of 100k miles and likely is in pretty rough shape.
- ghusto 3y agoNever bought a car for more than 2k, and never had any problems. They’re indeed usually over 100k miles, but definitely not in rough shape. In fact, my first car was under a grand, and it was built like a tank. I was not kind to that thing, and the only thing that killed it in the end was a head on collision (everyone was okay, lady got some expensive driving lesson that day). I go for older cars because they tend to actually be more reliable, and the plus side is they’re cheaper. I’m presuming “ICE” means internal combustion engine?
- Kirby64 3y agoI just parsed the classifieds and I don't know where you're finding these reliable cars for under 2 grand. The only thing I see in the sub $2k price range are cars that need engines, cars with >200k miles and suspiciously few details on running history, or cars that are literally wrecked. I wouldn't trust any of those cars to be reliable. There's some cars that look like they're in 'decent' condition under $5k, but they again have >150k miles almost universally. Likely in need of some pretty expensive maintenance somewhat soon at that mileage. I bought a car for $2k that was decent and <100k miles around 10 years ago, but those days are long over as far as I can tell. And yes, ICE = internal combustion engine.
- tonyedgecombe 3y ago>When we can buy second hand electric cars _with reliable batteries that aren’t near end of life_ for 2k CATL are talking about their LFP batteries having a life of 1,000,000km (600,000 miles). Given enough time there will be plenty of budget options. In the mean time you can keep buying cheap cars.