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The reason it's a little different with passwords is passwords are considered to be equivalent to a key to a safe, and people could be required to hand a key ov
by PrimeMcFly 3y ago
The reason it's a little different with passwords is passwords are considered to be equivalent to a key to a safe, and people could be required to hand a key over.
Although it appears the matter has now been settled as of this ruling.
- kevincox 3y agoCan you be compelled to hand it over? What if you lost it? It seems like with a warrant they can be allowed to crack into your safe, and you may prefer to let them use the key so that you still have a working safe at the end of it.
- PrimeMcFly 3y agoThere were different court cases in different states that ruled it did have to be handed over. As for whether or not someone genuinely lost it, I guess it would be up to the particulars of that case if they were believed or not. The UK has a rather scary law where even if you do genuinely lose it they just assume you are lying.
- kevincox 3y agoThe UK case is always what I assumed the main point of the right to remain silent was about. How can you compell someone to reveal something that you can't prove they know? Memory is fallible and it seems wrong to be incriminated since you forgot something or just never knew it in the first place. The extension of that is you can just always say "I don't know". So the right to remain silent is basically a shortcut to avoid this issue.
- gustavus 3y agoI mean ya but the UK has basically no civil rights at this point, where they throw you in jail for criticizing politicians.
- creer 3y agoNot settled > ruling issued today by Utah's state Supreme Court It would take a US Supreme Court ruling. Apparently a few states have ruled in different directions in different circumstances.
- PrimeMcFly 3y agoOh yeah, I had thought it was a SCOTUS ruling when I commented. It's settled in Utah at least.