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Author here \o People that know me know I'm not fond of the design of containers on Linux. But that's just because I've been stuck having to make things actual

Author here \o People that know me know I'm not fond of the design of containers on Linux. But that's just because I've been stuck having to make things actually work on them. Transparent IDE support, making profilers, resolving ELFs from radically different mount namespaces, PTY API giving completely undocumented results, ... But that said, we're stuck with them so might as well make it as pleasant as possible.

hpfr 3y ago
It seems to me we’re seeing something of a native GNOME application renaissance, both core and third-party, buoyed by GTK 4 and Flatpak (as well as the trend towards immutable base images). Rust seems to be part of this too—Loupe, Fractal, and Emmanuele Bassi’s recent GUADEC talk on oxidizing GTK¹ are examples. There are now three newer VTE-based terminal emulators targeting a native GNOME UX: Console (C), Black Box (Vala), and Prompt (C). Is there something about VTE or terminal emulators that makes Rust less appealing, or is this just a coincidence? I’m curious. Prompt will probably be my next terminal emulator. That inspector looks interesting. Have you seen Ghostty’s recent demo²? 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVWrllJQJ_s&t=6155s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVWrllJQJ_s&t=6155s 2: https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-devlog-005#terminal-inspector-728 https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-devlog-005#terminal-in...
- audidude 3y ago
  I might be biased, because I'm the author, but I think GNOME Builder making it dead simple to install an IDE from Flatpak, create a GTK 4 application template in numerous languages, and click run/debug/profile/valgrind and you're off to the races had a lot to do with it. It even installs the SDKs and extensions for you so your new-developer setup is install, clone this url, click run. We built Flatpak and Builder in concert from the beginning to foster this exact outcome. But as for language? I already hack on GTK/GDK/GSK internals in C, a mix of C++ and C to contribute to VTE, and Builder is 250k of C with another 200k in associated libraries. I'm just better at it and language bindings are never an issue.
  - hpfr 3y ago
    Makes sense. I should give Builder a try sometime. Thanks for your work!
20after4 3y ago
So far prompt looks amazing, though it's crashing occasionally for no apparent reason. I'll try to track that down. Are you aware that there is already a terminal for iOS with the same name? https://panic.com/prompt/ https://panic.com/prompt/

hpfr 3y ago

It seems to me we’re seeing something of a native GNOME application renaissance, both core and third-party, buoyed by GTK 4 and Flatpak (as well as the trend towards immutable base images). Rust seems to be part of this too—Loupe, Fractal, and Emmanuele Bassi’s recent GUADEC talk on oxidizing GTK¹ are examples. There are now three newer VTE-based terminal emulators targeting a native GNOME UX: Console (C), Black Box (Vala), and Prompt (C). Is there something about VTE or terminal emulators that makes Rust less appealing, or is this just a coincidence? I’m curious. Prompt will probably be my next terminal emulator. That inspector looks interesting. Have you seen Ghostty’s recent demo²? 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVWrllJQJ_s&t=6155s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVWrllJQJ_s&t=6155s 2: https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-devlog-005#terminal-inspector-728 https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-devlog-005#terminal-in...

audidude 3y ago
I might be biased, because I'm the author, but I think GNOME Builder making it dead simple to install an IDE from Flatpak, create a GTK 4 application template in numerous languages, and click run/debug/profile/valgrind and you're off to the races had a lot to do with it. It even installs the SDKs and extensions for you so your new-developer setup is install, clone this url, click run. We built Flatpak and Builder in concert from the beginning to foster this exact outcome. But as for language? I already hack on GTK/GDK/GSK internals in C, a mix of C++ and C to contribute to VTE, and Builder is 250k of C with another 200k in associated libraries. I'm just better at it and language bindings are never an issue.
- hpfr 3y ago
  Makes sense. I should give Builder a try sometime. Thanks for your work!

20after4 3y ago

So far prompt looks amazing, though it's crashing occasionally for no apparent reason. I'll try to track that down. Are you aware that there is already a terminal for iOS with the same name? https://panic.com/prompt/ https://panic.com/prompt/