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Now nothing, they can keep on with their live, they just can't have fancy military toys unless they move towards a more liberal and democratic path.

omeid2 3y ago
Yeah, right. Because the Al-Qaeda and ISIS affilated Taliban are more Liberal and Democratic that US signed an agreement with them and handed over Afghanistan to them.
mangamadaiyan 3y ago
Don't forget, the country _was_ on a liberal and democratic path under Mossadegh several decades ago. It just wasn't a path that the US and the UK liked. Hence began a series of "interventions" which eventually resulted in the present regime. This would be the right place to insert that old (Santayana?) quote about history, I guess.
- philwelch 3y ago
  > Don't forget, the country _was_ on a liberal and democratic path under Mossadegh several decades ago. False. Mossadegh had already suspended elections prior to the coup, which is one of the reasons he lost popular support.
  - mangamadaiyan 3y ago
    Citation please? Not a sarcastic question, asking so that I can learn. My source was Ryszard Kapuscinski's book.
    - mangamadaiyan 3y ago
      ... and a few more. That apart, none of what you've said excuses the CIA interventions which eventually let Khomeini take power.
      - philwelch 3y ago
        I misspoke; Mossadeq dissolved the parliament and rigged a referendum allowing him to do so rather than suspending elections. Also, the CIA was likely not actually responsible for the coup anyway: https://web.archive.org/web/20150603235034/https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/middle-east/2014-06-16/what-really-happened-iran https://web.archive.org/web/20150603235034/https://www.forei...
anigbrowl 3y ago
I would strongly suggest living outside the United States for a little while to grow out of this 'Team America World Police' mindset.
- signatoremo 3y ago
  May be you should ask Romania, Poland, Sweden or Finland how they feel about having NATO’s protection/presence against Russia’s aggression. “Team America World Police” as you mocked.
  - justsomehnguy 3y ago
    May be you should ask "Team America" why they are meddling with countries on the other side of the world. Maybe sitting besides two gigantic pools of water helps?
    - petre 3y ago
      Maybe because it helps tip the balance in your favour? Dunno about you but we've had just about enough Soviet dominance in Eastern Europe. We're gonna have have "US hegemony" for a change now, being "US satellites", as Russia likes to picture it.
  - serpix 3y ago
    We appreciate it very very very much and welcome you with open arms.

omeid2 3y ago

Yeah, right. Because the Al-Qaeda and ISIS affilated Taliban are more Liberal and Democratic that US signed an agreement with them and handed over Afghanistan to them.

mangamadaiyan 3y ago

Don't forget, the country _was_ on a liberal and democratic path under Mossadegh several decades ago. It just wasn't a path that the US and the UK liked. Hence began a series of "interventions" which eventually resulted in the present regime. This would be the right place to insert that old (Santayana?) quote about history, I guess.

philwelch 3y ago
> Don't forget, the country _was_ on a liberal and democratic path under Mossadegh several decades ago. False. Mossadegh had already suspended elections prior to the coup, which is one of the reasons he lost popular support.
- mangamadaiyan 3y ago
  Citation please? Not a sarcastic question, asking so that I can learn. My source was Ryszard Kapuscinski's book.
  - mangamadaiyan 3y ago
    ... and a few more. That apart, none of what you've said excuses the CIA interventions which eventually let Khomeini take power.
    - philwelch 3y ago
      I misspoke; Mossadeq dissolved the parliament and rigged a referendum allowing him to do so rather than suspending elections. Also, the CIA was likely not actually responsible for the coup anyway: https://web.archive.org/web/20150603235034/https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/middle-east/2014-06-16/what-really-happened-iran https://web.archive.org/web/20150603235034/https://www.forei...

anigbrowl 3y ago

I would strongly suggest living outside the United States for a little while to grow out of this 'Team America World Police' mindset.

signatoremo 3y ago
May be you should ask Romania, Poland, Sweden or Finland how they feel about having NATO’s protection/presence against Russia’s aggression. “Team America World Police” as you mocked.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago
  May be you should ask "Team America" why they are meddling with countries on the other side of the world. Maybe sitting besides two gigantic pools of water helps?
  - petre 3y ago
    Maybe because it helps tip the balance in your favour? Dunno about you but we've had just about enough Soviet dominance in Eastern Europe. We're gonna have have "US hegemony" for a change now, being "US satellites", as Russia likes to picture it.
- serpix 3y ago
  We appreciate it very very very much and welcome you with open arms.