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You don't even need a disorder for that. Anyone could forget a passcode. They can't prove that you remember it, or that you have any idea what it is, but what t

You don't even need a disorder for that. Anyone could forget a passcode. They can't prove that you remember it, or that you have any idea what it is, but what they can do is lock you in a jail cell anyway. If your lucky you might get out after only several years https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/02/man-who-refused-to-decrypt-hard-drives-is-free-after-four-years-in-jail/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/02/man-who-refused-...

LoganDark 3y ago
Sure I don't need the disorder to forget things, but the disorder makes it more likely to happen.
- autoexec 3y ago
  I'd argue that people are far more likely to forget a password/passcode than to have dissociative personality disorder and then have only one personality be aware of the password and then also be cured of the disorder/personality or otherwise be unable to ever manifest that personality to allow for questioning by police. I think in that case it'd probably be treated more or less the same. Jailed for months/years for contempt of court, either locked up in a cell or a hospital with court ordered mental health treatment depending on if the judge believes the person actually has the disorder or not.
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    An estimated 1% or so of the population is suspected to have DID, and memory gaps don't exclusively work like "some identity knows the password but it's not me". I can totally forget things without someone else in the system still knowing them. Nobody really has to hold the memory for it to become inaccessible.
kelnos 3y ago
Once when I was running CyanogenMod (wow, long time ago) on my Android phone, I made use of the feature to set my device's storage encryption password to something different from my screen unlock code. And then I proceeded to not reboot my phone for months, and forget what the encryption password was. I was very surprised upon next reboot to find I couldn't get into my phone. Fortunately I remembered it, but it took me a good day or so to figure it out. So yes, it's perfectly possible to forget a passcode. But the authorities, of course, may not believe you've forgotten it. Which is why it's so important that it should be entirely legal to just refuse to provide it in the first place.

LoganDark 3y ago

Sure I don't need the disorder to forget things, but the disorder makes it more likely to happen.

autoexec 3y ago
I'd argue that people are far more likely to forget a password/passcode than to have dissociative personality disorder and then have only one personality be aware of the password and then also be cured of the disorder/personality or otherwise be unable to ever manifest that personality to allow for questioning by police. I think in that case it'd probably be treated more or less the same. Jailed for months/years for contempt of court, either locked up in a cell or a hospital with court ordered mental health treatment depending on if the judge believes the person actually has the disorder or not.
- LoganDark 3y ago
  An estimated 1% or so of the population is suspected to have DID, and memory gaps don't exclusively work like "some identity knows the password but it's not me". I can totally forget things without someone else in the system still knowing them. Nobody really has to hold the memory for it to become inaccessible.

kelnos 3y ago

Once when I was running CyanogenMod (wow, long time ago) on my Android phone, I made use of the feature to set my device's storage encryption password to something different from my screen unlock code. And then I proceeded to not reboot my phone for months, and forget what the encryption password was. I was very surprised upon next reboot to find I couldn't get into my phone. Fortunately I remembered it, but it took me a good day or so to figure it out. So yes, it's perfectly possible to forget a passcode. But the authorities, of course, may not believe you've forgotten it. Which is why it's so important that it should be entirely legal to just refuse to provide it in the first place.