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Two federated protocols co-opted by them have a similar story to tell. Email, besides XMPP. Both still work. But both are impractical if you want to selfhost. X
by goku12 3y ago
Two federated protocols co-opted by them have a similar story to tell. Email, besides XMPP. Both still work. But both are impractical if you want to selfhost. XMPP lost a huge portion of its users. And the vast majority of email users are on just two providers who either send mails from outside into the spambox or drop it silently. The logical conclusion is to not let these big players on to the federated network if you care about the federated nature or userbase of these networks.
- keep_reading 3y agoXMPP never had a strong federated ecosystem of users that existed outside of GChat. ActivityPub already has a few million users and a thriving federation
- vertis 3y agoIt got much much harder to run an email server because all the hoops that had to be jumped through to reduce spam made it a nightmare. I'm not sure I really blame Google/Microsoft for that. I have a pretty decent experience on Fastmail and had at one point reasonable experience on Protonmail as well (except that they could never manage to import my enormous 20 year archive of email :D). Most every ISP in the world still offers email, friends and family that have those addresses still manage to get their emails through. There are also plenty of newsletter hosts mail services that don't get dropped or put in spam. Granted those aren't self-hosting, but these other hosting options just reinforce that it's more a matter of spam prevention than it is evil companies being evil (to be clear, I accept they are evil, and they do evil things all the time).