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Pop _OS Cosmic Desktop Improving Multi-Monitor and Multi-Window Support

73 points by mindracer 3y ago

Fervicus 3y ago
Link to the actual System76 blog post: https://blog.system76.com/post/the-spirit-of-cosmic-december-updates https://blog.system76.com/post/the-spirit-of-cosmic-december...
jonatron 3y ago
You have to call it Pop exclamation mark underscore OS here.
- whalesalad 3y ago
  Boggles my mind that they gave their distribution such a bizarre name with those characters. Something something there are only two hard problems in computer science...
  - steviedotboston 3y ago
    "Linux distro with a bizarre name gets improved support for features that have worked out of the box in Windows and macOS for decades"
    - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
      It's better than that - more like, "Desktop environment for Linux distro with a bizarre name gets improved support for features that have worked out of the box in other Linux DEs for decades". Which, granted, is the cost of making a new DE yourself, but still funny.
      - timeon 3y ago
        Not sure what is the point of this thread since even Linux/Windows/MacOs are bizarre names.
        wharvle 3y ago
        Those don't have a combo of typography and word choice that looks like a children's birthday party supply store's name was merged with the results of a cat walking on the keyboard.
    - tommica 3y ago
      Every day small children learn to walk, even though others have done it for millennia
  - wharvle 3y ago
    Despite all the buzz around it, the name's truly kept me away. It's hard to believe people who named something so comically-terribly didn't also make a bunch of other so-bad-they-wouldn't-seem-like-plausible-parody decisions in other places.
    - timeon 3y ago
      Wait till you find out that there is even DE called 'Gnome'.
      - ragnese 3y ago
        And how it's pronounced!
      - wharvle 3y ago
        "The gimp" is infamous for sometimes getting it excluded from consideration. I once had a new manager after an acquisition do a (pathetic) security audit of our servers and get vey upset at finding a binary called "finger". True story. Somewhere along the way we've lost the ability to have a word that means something "dirty" and also retains other meanings that people can use without someone immediately thinking of the dirty meaning. Though I enjoy their sort of thing, I think Beavis and Butthead and their successors (e.g. South Park) may be responsible for the evidently-recent development of such extreme sensitivity to those kinds of multiple-meaning words.
        whalesalad 3y ago
        In high school I tried to use Gimp for a UI/UX class and my teacher flipped her shit and went on a 30 minute diatribe on how un-PC I was being. I tried to explain that it was in fact a popular open source software package for graphic design. That entire school was a friggin nightmare.
    - throwawaymaths 3y ago
      Have you tried it? It's better than mint, which is what I used before for an "Im too busy programming to be assed with Linux configuration" distro
runjake 3y ago
It's interesting that they are delaying Pop_OS! releases and behind the original schedule[1] writing a new desktop environment, but so much of their updates seem to be around their text editor. I would have prioritized having a basic, usable desktop environment, myself -- it being a release blocker and all. Of course, it's their business and they can do what they like, and I do wish them the best. Pop_OS! was my favorite Linux distribution before they indefinitely postponed releases. 1. TBF, I believe they revised their schedule to "when it's done". Edit: This is why they're spending time on the text editor: https://old.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comments/18ike40/december_updates_the_spirit_of_cosmic/kdfb3s7/ https://old.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comments/18ike40/december_up... Edit 2: Here's sort of a roadmap for Pop!_OS: https://github.com/orgs/pop-os/projects/23/views/1 https://github.com/orgs/pop-os/projects/23/views/1
- askonomm 3y ago
  I'm also a little confused. Cosmic is a desktop environment, but they are working on a text editor? How are these related? Or are they re-inventing all the wheels just because they can?
  - JeremyMorgan 3y ago
    Exactly. With VS Code in existence, I'm not sure why they're wasting their time. This isn't a huge need for folks right now.
    - askonomm 3y ago
      And VSCode is just one of many that run on Linux. This feels like some sort of a unwritten rule that if you are making a new DE you also have to make a new text editor (ElementaryOS makes Code, KDE makes Kate, Gnome makes Gnome Text Editor) which honestly is a bit ridiculous to me.
      - type0 3y ago
        it's not as ridiculous when you install your DE as a bundle of packages
IWeldMelons 3y ago
I frankly after switching to Debian do not miss Ubuntu/PopOS LTS much.
dengolius 3y ago
Hey, is there any project or guide which I can use to build and run Cosmic Desktop on Arch Linux? I don't want to argue about why this is the case, and not use the distribution package right away PoP_OS...
- mmstick76 3y ago
  Read the instructions from the pop-os/cosmic-epoch repository.

73 points by mindracer 3y ago

Link to the actual System76 blog post: https://blog.system76.com/post/the-spirit-of-cosmic-december-updates https://blog.system76.com/post/the-spirit-of-cosmic-december...

jonatron 3y ago

You have to call it Pop exclamation mark underscore OS here.

whalesalad 3y ago
Boggles my mind that they gave their distribution such a bizarre name with those characters. Something something there are only two hard problems in computer science...
- steviedotboston 3y ago
  "Linux distro with a bizarre name gets improved support for features that have worked out of the box in Windows and macOS for decades"
  - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
    It's better than that - more like, "Desktop environment for Linux distro with a bizarre name gets improved support for features that have worked out of the box in other Linux DEs for decades". Which, granted, is the cost of making a new DE yourself, but still funny.
    - timeon 3y ago
      Not sure what is the point of this thread since even Linux/Windows/MacOs are bizarre names.
      - wharvle 3y ago
        Those don't have a combo of typography and word choice that looks like a children's birthday party supply store's name was merged with the results of a cat walking on the keyboard.
  - tommica 3y ago
    Every day small children learn to walk, even though others have done it for millennia
- wharvle 3y ago
  Despite all the buzz around it, the name's truly kept me away. It's hard to believe people who named something so comically-terribly didn't also make a bunch of other so-bad-they-wouldn't-seem-like-plausible-parody decisions in other places.
  - timeon 3y ago
    Wait till you find out that there is even DE called 'Gnome'.
    - ragnese 3y ago
      And how it's pronounced!
    - wharvle 3y ago
      "The gimp" is infamous for sometimes getting it excluded from consideration. I once had a new manager after an acquisition do a (pathetic) security audit of our servers and get vey upset at finding a binary called "finger". True story. Somewhere along the way we've lost the ability to have a word that means something "dirty" and also retains other meanings that people can use without someone immediately thinking of the dirty meaning. Though I enjoy their sort of thing, I think Beavis and Butthead and their successors (e.g. South Park) may be responsible for the evidently-recent development of such extreme sensitivity to those kinds of multiple-meaning words.
      - whalesalad 3y ago
        In high school I tried to use Gimp for a UI/UX class and my teacher flipped her shit and went on a 30 minute diatribe on how un-PC I was being. I tried to explain that it was in fact a popular open source software package for graphic design. That entire school was a friggin nightmare.
  - throwawaymaths 3y ago
    Have you tried it? It's better than mint, which is what I used before for an "Im too busy programming to be assed with Linux configuration" distro

runjake 3y ago

It's interesting that they are delaying Pop_OS! releases and behind the original schedule[1] writing a new desktop environment, but so much of their updates seem to be around their text editor. I would have prioritized having a basic, usable desktop environment, myself -- it being a release blocker and all. Of course, it's their business and they can do what they like, and I do wish them the best. Pop_OS! was my favorite Linux distribution before they indefinitely postponed releases. 1. TBF, I believe they revised their schedule to "when it's done". Edit: This is why they're spending time on the text editor: https://old.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comments/18ike40/december_updates_the_spirit_of_cosmic/kdfb3s7/ https://old.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comments/18ike40/december_up... Edit 2: Here's sort of a roadmap for Pop!_OS: https://github.com/orgs/pop-os/projects/23/views/1 https://github.com/orgs/pop-os/projects/23/views/1

askonomm 3y ago
I'm also a little confused. Cosmic is a desktop environment, but they are working on a text editor? How are these related? Or are they re-inventing all the wheels just because they can?
- JeremyMorgan 3y ago
  Exactly. With VS Code in existence, I'm not sure why they're wasting their time. This isn't a huge need for folks right now.
  - askonomm 3y ago
    And VSCode is just one of many that run on Linux. This feels like some sort of a unwritten rule that if you are making a new DE you also have to make a new text editor (ElementaryOS makes Code, KDE makes Kate, Gnome makes Gnome Text Editor) which honestly is a bit ridiculous to me.
    - type0 3y ago
      it's not as ridiculous when you install your DE as a bundle of packages

IWeldMelons 3y ago

I frankly after switching to Debian do not miss Ubuntu/PopOS LTS much.

dengolius 3y ago

Hey, is there any project or guide which I can use to build and run Cosmic Desktop on Arch Linux? I don't want to argue about why this is the case, and not use the distribution package right away PoP_OS...

mmstick76 3y ago
Read the instructions from the pop-os/cosmic-epoch repository.