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Wanna count all Android phones sold (including non-Google ones) from which Google makes a cut, instead of just Google Pixel? I feel like that would be a slight

Wanna count all Android phones sold (including non-Google ones) from which Google makes a cut, instead of just Google Pixel? I feel like that would be a slightly more fair comparison, given that Google would be making money from Android phones even if Google’s own Pixel line didn’t exist. Note: Apple almost definitely would still come out on top in terms of money made from phones, and by a significant margin, but the comparison would be more analogous if we counted not just Pixels imo.

scarface_74 3y ago
No because selling hardware and selling software are different competencies And we know from the Oracle Java trial back in the day how relatively little Google makes from Android compared to Apple from selling phones. And all indications are that Apple probably makes more in mobile from Google than Google makes from Android https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-21/google-s-android-generates-31-billion-revenue-oracle-says-ijor8hvt https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-21/google-s-...
- filoleg 3y ago
  > And all indications are that Apple probably makes more in mobile from Google than Google makes from Android Oh, absolutely. That’s pretty much the reason why devs often prioritize iOS releases over Android versions, due to them being able to make way more money from iOS users (and, by extension, Apple being able to make way more money from an equivalent app on iOS app store, compared to its Google Play Store versions, since the app store revenue they make is a cut from the revenue the app devs make). My point wasn’t that taking all Android phones (not just Pixel ones) into the account would make the comparison a bit more representative of reality, even if it still keeps the gap in money made from sales of phones extremely wide.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    Let me be clearer - my previous statement was kind of word salad. Google probably makes less than the $20B on Android than the same $20B that they pay Apple.
    - filoleg 3y ago
      I really appreciate the clarification. That distilled claim is the one I can honestly believe to be true, though I don’t have the actual numbers to back it up.

scarface_74 3y ago

No because selling hardware and selling software are different competencies And we know from the Oracle Java trial back in the day how relatively little Google makes from Android compared to Apple from selling phones. And all indications are that Apple probably makes more in mobile from Google than Google makes from Android https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-21/google-s-android-generates-31-billion-revenue-oracle-says-ijor8hvt https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-21/google-s-...

filoleg 3y ago
> And all indications are that Apple probably makes more in mobile from Google than Google makes from Android Oh, absolutely. That’s pretty much the reason why devs often prioritize iOS releases over Android versions, due to them being able to make way more money from iOS users (and, by extension, Apple being able to make way more money from an equivalent app on iOS app store, compared to its Google Play Store versions, since the app store revenue they make is a cut from the revenue the app devs make). My point wasn’t that taking all Android phones (not just Pixel ones) into the account would make the comparison a bit more representative of reality, even if it still keeps the gap in money made from sales of phones extremely wide.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  Let me be clearer - my previous statement was kind of word salad. Google probably makes less than the $20B on Android than the same $20B that they pay Apple.
  - filoleg 3y ago
    I really appreciate the clarification. That distilled claim is the one I can honestly believe to be true, though I don’t have the actual numbers to back it up.