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hey hn, supabase ceo here Fly's current Postgres offering is unmanaged, so we're working with them to run their managed offering. This is the same model that t
by kiwicopple 3y ago
hey hn, supabase ceo here
Fly's current Postgres offering is unmanaged, so we're working with them to run their managed offering. This is the same model that they run with the Upstash team for Fly Redis[0]
We're still working with testers to roll out HA features. We don't have firm timelines yet unfortunately, but we'll work with the Fly team to make it happen as soon as possible
I'll stick around for any questions/comments
[0] Redis: https://fly.io/docs/reference/redis/ https://fly.io/docs/reference/redis/
- denysvitali 3y agoTwo awesome technologies / companies joining forces! Supabase and Fly.io are awesome - can't wait to see how cool they can get together!
- adam_gyroscope 3y agoNice job & congrats!
- pplante 3y agoYou used the lowercase, it's cool we're all friends here in your intro. Then reverted to correct casing for the remainder. Disarmed everyone with that sly move. nice touch!
- saintfire 3y agoIt is sort of funny that such an innocuous thing was all I could think about while reading it.
- kiwicopple 3y agoha, I think I probably wrote "Fly" to keep their brand name and then continued in blog-writing mode as a result
- OJFord 3y agoAmazing, that was exactly my (only) reaction too. Oh, this must be genuine, hip CEO who has disabled autocapitalisation (or fought it) and not bothered to capitalise anything anyone else with similar education level would ... Until the next paragraph! If I am ever in such a position and make such a decision I hereby give anyone and everyone permission to berate me and point me back to this comment and I'll correct myself thenceforth.
- kiwicopple 3y agoyou mock my capitalization and and in the same comment use "thenceforth". shame on you
- OJFord 3y agoIs there a less 'wordy' way to say that? 'From then on' is longer and worse to type. That matters to me more on (autocapitalising) mobile than it perhaps does otherwise. I don't even really follow your point. Surely if I am 'too prescriptive' in wanting proper capitalisation, that is .. not exactly inconsistent with a 'wordy' choice of word anyway?
- tptacek 3y agoBased on insight I have gained from the deep corporate relationship that has grown between our firms I can say with some confidence that he is fucking with you.
- bmelton 3y agoMathematically speaking, 'henceforth' is shorter
- OJFord 3y agoAnd linguistically speaking, has different meaning.
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- satvikpendem 3y agoInteresting, why doesn't Fly offer their own managed services and move up-market like DigitalOcean and others (and of course, the big cloud players)? I haven't heard of other companies coming in to collaborate on managing the hosted version of other companies' unhosted service.
- KRAKRISMOTT 3y agoThey lack the institutional DNA and culture for site reliability engineering. They have amazing system engineers and this is rather obvious from their blogposts. However their uptime numbers are frankly horrifying and in their support forums they spend a lot of time making customers do the work for them. They don't have the institutional culture to be running modern cloud infrastructure. Good engineers, terrible operators.
- cultofmetatron 3y ago> However their uptime numbers are frankly horrifying and in their support forums they spend a lot of time making customers do the work for them I really hope this improves. I love what they are doing but there's a reason my company elected to build out a custon deployment on aws. reliability is KING when you have paying customers. Until they bring those numbers up, they are only going to be good for hobby projects
- biorach 3y agoI think you're being unfairly harsh. Looks to me like they're improving.
- tptacek 3y agoThey're related but distinct problem spaces. Craig Kerstiens is somewhere else on this thread talking about the work that went into Heroku's Postgres. Paul Copplestone can give you an earful about how hard Supabase was to build. We can talk your ears off about orchestration and Anycast networking. These are all big problems; they're not just features. I vividly remember hanging out on my back porch with Kurt as we were plotting out attached storage (we didn't even start out with storage!) and him telling me how hard it would be to replicate the kind of work Craig and Paul had done --- he'd know, after doing Compose.io! We had no illusions that we were going to provide that. Instead, we charted out a halfway point: "automated" but not "managed" Postgres, which is almost (not quite) just an application you deploy on top of Fly.io. You can see from my sibling comment how well that went. A managed database practice monitors and intervenes with database clusters in ways a fire-and-forget automated system doesn't. If you don't do all that work --- a whole (huge) company's worth of work --- you break peoples expectations, and they question your pedigree on message boards. :)
- jerrygoyal 3y agoHi, what are your thoughts on distributed SQLite? Do you see it's becoming the default choice instead of pgs in future?
- devoutsalsa 3y agoThePrimeagen (dev YouTuber: https://youtube.com/@ThePrimeagen https://youtube.com/@ThePrimeagen) talks about liking Turso quite a bit, which is built on SQLite. I haven’t tried it, but it sounds fun. https://turso.tech/ https://turso.tech/