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Vision Pro will do nothing of the sort. It just has features that serve to lock you in their platform.

by deafpolygon 3y ago

huytersd 3y ago
I don’t think anyone minds the walled garden anymore. Infact people appreciate the mindless safety and security.
- deafpolygon 3y ago
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  - dagmx 3y ago
    Why is it always that people who bleet about mindless sheep who do so by denigrating anyone who chooses anything other than their own preferences.
    - rpmisms 3y ago
      I hate mindless sheep, and if you disagree with me strongly and can defend your position from first principles, we can probably be good friends.
  - danjc 3y ago
    Sheep not sheeps. It's important that insults are grammatically sound, otherwise they are rendered comedic.
    - deafpolygon 3y ago
      Did I forget my /s? Or how do you convey a joke?
      - danjc 3y ago
        It's the ambiguity that makes it good.
shepherdjerred 3y ago
How so?
- deafpolygon 3y ago
  Same problem with iCloud Photo Library- fantastic app/platform, but incredibly difficult to leave. Things like facial recognition (it's very good), search (by person, year, or subject!) and live video are not easily duplicated in a cohesive package anywhere else. They lock you in with a few subtle features and make you feel like you need to keep it - and they target you where it's personal. Your photos. Did iCloud Photo Library change photography? I would say not. Most people take personal pictures with their phone. When you take pictures of your child with spatial video and get that little extra detail, then upsell a product like Vision Pro - you're most likely going to want to get one. You're also not likely to leave the walled garden if you have thousands of photos bundled up in there. Have you tried to export your photo library from iCloud Photo Library and take it elsewhere? A veritable nightmare. I have tried multiple times and failed. I have over 200GB of photos + videos (almost entirely personal photos with things around me and my family and friends). - Albums are given to you only in a csv format, not folders or anything useful of the sort. - Images are dumped all in one folder, not separated by something useful- like YYYY-MM-DD. - Live videos are dumped as .MP4 and indistinguishable from your normal videos. - The useful metadata from each photo is not saved 1:1. Comments, any adjustments and edits, etc. Edits just get dumped as another photo. Apple saves a set of metadata on top of the ones that are included with the image EXIF data and there are no EXIF data included with videos. Those stay in iCloud. I get it: you can't expect Apple to make it easy- but if their product is so good, then they wouldn't make it this hard.
  - paradox460 3y ago
    All of those features are present in both Plex and Google photos fwiw
    - deafpolygon 3y ago
      With Plex, you need to be your own sysadmin. With Google Photos, well, I wouldn't touch Google.

Vision Pro will do nothing of the sort. It just has features that serve to lock you in their platform.

huytersd 3y ago

I don’t think anyone minds the walled garden anymore. Infact people appreciate the mindless safety and security.

deafpolygon 3y ago
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- dagmx 3y ago
  Why is it always that people who bleet about mindless sheep who do so by denigrating anyone who chooses anything other than their own preferences.
  - rpmisms 3y ago
    I hate mindless sheep, and if you disagree with me strongly and can defend your position from first principles, we can probably be good friends.
- danjc 3y ago
  Sheep not sheeps. It's important that insults are grammatically sound, otherwise they are rendered comedic.
  - deafpolygon 3y ago
    Did I forget my /s? Or how do you convey a joke?
    - danjc 3y ago
      It's the ambiguity that makes it good.

shepherdjerred 3y ago

How so?

deafpolygon 3y ago
Same problem with iCloud Photo Library- fantastic app/platform, but incredibly difficult to leave. Things like facial recognition (it's very good), search (by person, year, or subject!) and live video are not easily duplicated in a cohesive package anywhere else. They lock you in with a few subtle features and make you feel like you need to keep it - and they target you where it's personal. Your photos. Did iCloud Photo Library change photography? I would say not. Most people take personal pictures with their phone. When you take pictures of your child with spatial video and get that little extra detail, then upsell a product like Vision Pro - you're most likely going to want to get one. You're also not likely to leave the walled garden if you have thousands of photos bundled up in there. Have you tried to export your photo library from iCloud Photo Library and take it elsewhere? A veritable nightmare. I have tried multiple times and failed. I have over 200GB of photos + videos (almost entirely personal photos with things around me and my family and friends). - Albums are given to you only in a csv format, not folders or anything useful of the sort. - Images are dumped all in one folder, not separated by something useful- like YYYY-MM-DD. - Live videos are dumped as .MP4 and indistinguishable from your normal videos. - The useful metadata from each photo is not saved 1:1. Comments, any adjustments and edits, etc. Edits just get dumped as another photo. Apple saves a set of metadata on top of the ones that are included with the image EXIF data and there are no EXIF data included with videos. Those stay in iCloud. I get it: you can't expect Apple to make it easy- but if their product is so good, then they wouldn't make it this hard.
- paradox460 3y ago
  All of those features are present in both Plex and Google photos fwiw
  - deafpolygon 3y ago
    With Plex, you need to be your own sysadmin. With Google Photos, well, I wouldn't touch Google.