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>For one thing, you're on a different planet if you think the split bench is >highly desired. Nobody wants a middle seat and when you can get an entire third >r

>For one thing, you're on a different planet if you think the split bench is >highly desired. Nobody wants a middle seat and when you can get an entire third >row in a vehicle that is shorter than a Vic. What parents actually want their >child sitting in between them in the front seat? It'd be nice to not have to clamber over folding rear seats to get to a third row. Sitting three across in a car with adequate shoulder room would be more comfortable than the sort of gymnastics one needs to get into the third row of modern suvs. Likewise, more space at the hips would be handy for cops with a full duty belt or old people who've had hip trouble. >For example, a modern Accord is a big sedan No, not really. >mean, hello, have you heard of hybrids? The current Accord hybrid is a huge sedan No, it really isn't. A Bentley Mulsanne is a huge sedan. A W222 Mercedes is a huge sedan. >and gets over double the MPG of a Crown Vic (41/46 MPG), and you don't get much >more low-end torque than an electric motor. ...and hybrids have almost no market traction amongst the people who buy domestic cars. The complexity of the hybrid powertrain is a turnoff, despite obvious advantages. >Another example: The Toyota Sienna, has so close to double the MPG of the Crown >Vic (36 combined), is basically a cargo ship inside, 7 adult passengers plus a >massive amount of cargo comfortably. If I have a family of 5 or 6, why am I >getting a Crown Vic over that? Three or four kids? Minivan. Three or four adult children, or friends? Sedan with a proper roofline. Watching people fold themselves in half to crawl inside a minivan to get to the back seats is just painful. >But today, the Crown Vic is like a foreign object on the road, more similar to classic cars from 50 years ago than the type of car a typical person is looking to buy today. Classic cars...the ones that people collect? The ones that are worth more in the future? Funny, that.

dangus 3y ago
If you think adults prefer the “roofline” of the sedan you have to explain cratering sales and discontinuations somehow. Hybrids aren’t even complex…they’re actually extremely simple and Toyota’s platform is proven rock solid. If you think people aren’t buying them you should look at the wait times on the RAV4 Prime. If the Crown Vic was the backbone of taxi fleets it’s easy to argue that the Prius and other Toyota hybrids are the new backbone of taxis and Ubers. Classic cars…the ones that are unreliable death traps and notorious money pits.

dangus 3y ago

If you think adults prefer the “roofline” of the sedan you have to explain cratering sales and discontinuations somehow. Hybrids aren’t even complex…they’re actually extremely simple and Toyota’s platform is proven rock solid. If you think people aren’t buying them you should look at the wait times on the RAV4 Prime. If the Crown Vic was the backbone of taxi fleets it’s easy to argue that the Prius and other Toyota hybrids are the new backbone of taxis and Ubers. Classic cars…the ones that are unreliable death traps and notorious money pits.