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I guess I don’t see the “clear and present danger”. It just isn’t obvious to me. Can you elaborate on the specific things Trump did that have shaped your opini

I guess I don’t see the “clear and present danger”. It just isn’t obvious to me. Can you elaborate on the specific things Trump did that have shaped your opinion to think he is a “dictator wannabe”?

bryanlarsen 3y ago
The willing transfer of power is the most fundamental aspect of democracy. You can have a partial democracy with flawed voting, etc. But if the loser refuses to step down, it's no longer a democracy. More dangerous than what he has done is what he has said. He has said that he will be a dictator on day one.
- thegrim33 3y ago
  No, he has not. The insanely biased partisan media you're consuming that has convinced you of this is the very thing this thread is about.
  - micromacrofoot 3y ago
    > “I love this guy,” he said of the Fox News host. “He says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said: ‘No, no, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.’”
    - bryanlarsen 3y ago
      It didn't come from left wing media, it came from a Hannity interview.
      - micromacrofoot 3y ago
        I really can't believe people are seriously still in the "don't worry about what he actually says" stage of this
    - dctoedt 3y ago
      > "After that, I’m not a dictator." Trump's track record in life — e.g., all the suppliers and other creditors whom he stiffed — doesn't give great reason to believe him about anything.
  - taylodl 3y ago
    As others here have replied, those were Trump's own words in his interview with Sean Hannity on November 29, 2023 in Davenport, Iowa. Trump "joked" he'd be a dictator for just one day. Given Trump's indictments on 91 felony charges, including trying to overthrow an election and Trump's disdain for US traditions and institutions, that's an entirely inappropriate "joke." I take Trump's "joke" very seriously. His actions during his first presidency, his admiration for the world's despots, and his actions after being voted out of office all point to Trump's desire to be a dictator - and now he's "joking" about it. You're a fool if you think he's joking.
taylodl 3y ago
Any man joking he'd be a dictator "for just the first day" is unfit for office and is a clear and present danger to our freedom. As far as elaborating on what Trump did, he's been indicted for 91 felonies. Do you understand what that means? Do you understand the gravity of those crimes? If not, then you need to get out from under your rock. Either that or you're just being willfully ignorant.
dragonwriter 3y ago
He encouraged a mob to go to the Capitol for the purpose of convincing the Vice President to throw out electoral votes of states that did not vote the way he wanted so as to seize a term for which the voters had not chosen him. Even if he did not intend or support the unlawful methods that mob later employed (which he clearly did, as his conduct during and after the events shows), that's enough to show his disdain for democratic norms.

bryanlarsen 3y ago

The willing transfer of power is the most fundamental aspect of democracy. You can have a partial democracy with flawed voting, etc. But if the loser refuses to step down, it's no longer a democracy. More dangerous than what he has done is what he has said. He has said that he will be a dictator on day one.

thegrim33 3y ago
No, he has not. The insanely biased partisan media you're consuming that has convinced you of this is the very thing this thread is about.
- micromacrofoot 3y ago
  > “I love this guy,” he said of the Fox News host. “He says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said: ‘No, no, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.’”
  - bryanlarsen 3y ago
    It didn't come from left wing media, it came from a Hannity interview.
    - micromacrofoot 3y ago
      I really can't believe people are seriously still in the "don't worry about what he actually says" stage of this
  - dctoedt 3y ago
    > "After that, I’m not a dictator." Trump's track record in life — e.g., all the suppliers and other creditors whom he stiffed — doesn't give great reason to believe him about anything.
- taylodl 3y ago
  As others here have replied, those were Trump's own words in his interview with Sean Hannity on November 29, 2023 in Davenport, Iowa. Trump "joked" he'd be a dictator for just one day. Given Trump's indictments on 91 felony charges, including trying to overthrow an election and Trump's disdain for US traditions and institutions, that's an entirely inappropriate "joke." I take Trump's "joke" very seriously. His actions during his first presidency, his admiration for the world's despots, and his actions after being voted out of office all point to Trump's desire to be a dictator - and now he's "joking" about it. You're a fool if you think he's joking.

taylodl 3y ago

Any man joking he'd be a dictator "for just the first day" is unfit for office and is a clear and present danger to our freedom. As far as elaborating on what Trump did, he's been indicted for 91 felonies. Do you understand what that means? Do you understand the gravity of those crimes? If not, then you need to get out from under your rock. Either that or you're just being willfully ignorant.

dragonwriter 3y ago

He encouraged a mob to go to the Capitol for the purpose of convincing the Vice President to throw out electoral votes of states that did not vote the way he wanted so as to seize a term for which the voters had not chosen him. Even if he did not intend or support the unlawful methods that mob later employed (which he clearly did, as his conduct during and after the events shows), that's enough to show his disdain for democratic norms.