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This has never, ever, happened to me and I have been using iMessage daily since its inception. I call shenanigans.

by wrboyce 3y ago

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jacquesm 3y ago
So if something never ever happened to you it isn't true? That's a pretty self centered view of things.
- wrboyce 3y ago
  I shouldn’t form an opinion based on my own experiences because it might upset you? That’s a pretty self centred view of things. I could’ve expanded, I’m pretty much de facto “IT Support” for a lot of the friends/family I’ve spent those years communicating with using iMessage so I can pretty confidently say it has never happened to any of them either. I could go on to say that if it was a widespread issue this wouldn’t be the first we are hearing about it, and it absolutely would’ve been covered in some sort of tech news - possibly even the regular old news. But sure, let’s go with self centred.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    You misread me: if something didn't happen to you that doesn't invalidate the GPs experience, it just means that your experiences differ. Now you have to figure out why they differ.
  - kelnos 3y ago
    That's not how experiences work. If someone says "I saw X" and you say "I didn't see X", that doesn't necessarily mean X doesn't exist, it just means you didn't see it. Sure, the person who saw X might have been hallucinating, but you don't have enough information to know either way. It's a little weird to so strongly believe that a rare, intermittent bug (no one suggested it's "widespread") couldn't exist with a messaging service that gets a ton of traffic and has to support nearly a billion and a half people across the globe. May want to examine what biases lead you to having such a negative response to something like that. Also consider that even if you have 1000 friends for whom you are "IT support guy", you've still interacted with fewer than 0.0001% of all iPhone users. You are several orders of magnitude off from a representative sample, especially if we're talking about a rare bug.
    - danaris 3y ago
      But tshirthoodie isn't just claiming "this extremely far-fetched things happened to me". They're explicitly claiming "this happens all the time."
      - jacquesm 3y ago
        To his family.
makeitdouble 3y ago
https://www.coolmuster.com/ios-recovery/iphone-text-messages-disappeared.html https://www.coolmuster.com/ios-recovery/iphone-text-messages... Doesn't feel like some rare issue. Googled it by curiosity, and there's a ton of "help" articles and support post on people randomly seeing messages disappear or not getting delivered.
- JoblessWonder 3y ago
  Just a heads up, this article is SEO clickbait for a backup app and a lot of the others might be as well.
alexchantavy 3y ago
Adding my own datapoint: I’ve absolutely had this happen on iPhone to iPhone where the message appeared to be sent on one device but the other received nothing
- wrboyce 3y ago
  If I was being asked to debug this for someone I know, my first two questions would be “did your phone say delivered?” and “does the recipient have a Mac/iPad/etc that could’ve received the message?”; do you know the answer to either of these? I worry that sounds accusatory but that’s not my intention, I’m curious and too tired to attempt to reword it.
  - JoblessWonder 3y ago
    Not person you responded to… but isn’t it safe to assume that iMessages are delivered to all devices on the account?

This has never, ever, happened to me and I have been using iMessage daily since its inception. I call shenanigans.

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jacquesm 3y ago

So if something never ever happened to you it isn't true? That's a pretty self centered view of things.

wrboyce 3y ago
I shouldn’t form an opinion based on my own experiences because it might upset you? That’s a pretty self centred view of things. I could’ve expanded, I’m pretty much de facto “IT Support” for a lot of the friends/family I’ve spent those years communicating with using iMessage so I can pretty confidently say it has never happened to any of them either. I could go on to say that if it was a widespread issue this wouldn’t be the first we are hearing about it, and it absolutely would’ve been covered in some sort of tech news - possibly even the regular old news. But sure, let’s go with self centred.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  You misread me: if something didn't happen to you that doesn't invalidate the GPs experience, it just means that your experiences differ. Now you have to figure out why they differ.
- kelnos 3y ago
  That's not how experiences work. If someone says "I saw X" and you say "I didn't see X", that doesn't necessarily mean X doesn't exist, it just means you didn't see it. Sure, the person who saw X might have been hallucinating, but you don't have enough information to know either way. It's a little weird to so strongly believe that a rare, intermittent bug (no one suggested it's "widespread") couldn't exist with a messaging service that gets a ton of traffic and has to support nearly a billion and a half people across the globe. May want to examine what biases lead you to having such a negative response to something like that. Also consider that even if you have 1000 friends for whom you are "IT support guy", you've still interacted with fewer than 0.0001% of all iPhone users. You are several orders of magnitude off from a representative sample, especially if we're talking about a rare bug.
  - danaris 3y ago
    But tshirthoodie isn't just claiming "this extremely far-fetched things happened to me". They're explicitly claiming "this happens all the time."
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      To his family.

makeitdouble 3y ago

https://www.coolmuster.com/ios-recovery/iphone-text-messages-disappeared.html https://www.coolmuster.com/ios-recovery/iphone-text-messages... Doesn't feel like some rare issue. Googled it by curiosity, and there's a ton of "help" articles and support post on people randomly seeing messages disappear or not getting delivered.

JoblessWonder 3y ago
Just a heads up, this article is SEO clickbait for a backup app and a lot of the others might be as well.

alexchantavy 3y ago

Adding my own datapoint: I’ve absolutely had this happen on iPhone to iPhone where the message appeared to be sent on one device but the other received nothing

wrboyce 3y ago
If I was being asked to debug this for someone I know, my first two questions would be “did your phone say delivered?” and “does the recipient have a Mac/iPad/etc that could’ve received the message?”; do you know the answer to either of these? I worry that sounds accusatory but that’s not my intention, I’m curious and too tired to attempt to reword it.
- JoblessWonder 3y ago
  Not person you responded to… but isn’t it safe to assume that iMessages are delivered to all devices on the account?