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The more relevant question is AMD vs. Apple. Intel is pretty much out of the equation now. Anybody have insights into the advantages and disadvantages from both

The more relevant question is AMD vs. Apple. Intel is pretty much out of the equation now. Anybody have insights into the advantages and disadvantages from both sides from that perspective?

throwup238 3y ago
> Anybody have insights into the advantages and disadvantages from both sides from that perspective? Do either of them have the volume to supply the server market? At the end of the day that's why Intel is still relevant.
- akasakahakada 3y ago
  HPC nowadays seems using AMD EPYC exclusively.
- corethree 3y ago
  Are there actual volume and production issues at TSMC? I figured intel is still "relevant" because of past momentum, not because of actual specs or production capacity. So while AMD is relevant. Intel is only "relevant" with quotations.
  - nicoburns 3y ago
    I think Intel are still relevant on the basis of having broadly competitive specs (not quite as far at as others, but pretty close), and their own production capacity. There is enough demand for both TSMC and Intels capacity.
    - corethree 3y ago
      In terms of performance for value they aren't relevant. If you have cash and you want the best bang for your buck intel is not a rational option. That's just reality but some people are in denial. In terms of potential for future success and raw ranking, yeah intel is still relevant in this area. But given that most people on HN are consumers I would think "relevant" applies to my first statement. They aren't currently a rational choice when you are making a purchase decision. But I guess I'm wrong. People will buy a shittier product just out of patriotism I guess? Nothing wrong with that.
- Corrado 3y ago
  AWS is pushing their ARM (Graviton) chips over the Intel ones. The price/performance is just better, generally speaking.
justapassenger 3y ago
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DeathArrow 3y ago
> Anybody have insights into the advantages and disadvantages from both sides from that perspective Yes. Having a lot of cash buys you exclusivity for TSMC 3nm and then for TSMC 2nm.
- corethree 3y ago
  Yeah so which team is winning on that front? Apple or amd.

The more relevant question is AMD vs. Apple. Intel is pretty much out of the equation now. Anybody have insights into the advantages and disadvantages from both sides from that perspective?

throwup238 3y ago

> Anybody have insights into the advantages and disadvantages from both sides from that perspective? Do either of them have the volume to supply the server market? At the end of the day that's why Intel is still relevant.

akasakahakada 3y ago
HPC nowadays seems using AMD EPYC exclusively.
corethree 3y ago
Are there actual volume and production issues at TSMC? I figured intel is still "relevant" because of past momentum, not because of actual specs or production capacity. So while AMD is relevant. Intel is only "relevant" with quotations.
- nicoburns 3y ago
  I think Intel are still relevant on the basis of having broadly competitive specs (not quite as far at as others, but pretty close), and their own production capacity. There is enough demand for both TSMC and Intels capacity.
  - corethree 3y ago
    In terms of performance for value they aren't relevant. If you have cash and you want the best bang for your buck intel is not a rational option. That's just reality but some people are in denial. In terms of potential for future success and raw ranking, yeah intel is still relevant in this area. But given that most people on HN are consumers I would think "relevant" applies to my first statement. They aren't currently a rational choice when you are making a purchase decision. But I guess I'm wrong. People will buy a shittier product just out of patriotism I guess? Nothing wrong with that.
Corrado 3y ago
AWS is pushing their ARM (Graviton) chips over the Intel ones. The price/performance is just better, generally speaking.

justapassenger 3y ago

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DeathArrow 3y ago

> Anybody have insights into the advantages and disadvantages from both sides from that perspective Yes. Having a lot of cash buys you exclusivity for TSMC 3nm and then for TSMC 2nm.

corethree 3y ago
Yeah so which team is winning on that front? Apple or amd.