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>artificial general intelligence (AGI)—by which we mean highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work Then we already hav

>artificial general intelligence (AGI)—by which we mean highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work Then we already have AGI, automated farming equipment outperforms humans in 90% of jobs*. *Jobs in 1700. As things got automated the jobs changed and we now do different things.

edanm 3y ago
I wouldn't call those equipment "autonomous" though, definitely not "highly autonomous". But more importantly - yes, you're right, we have built machines that are superhuman in various ways - and they have replaced most jobs. We have adapted in the past to different jobs. Some people are worried that this time we won't have any new jobs to adapt to, which is a real possibility. (Some are also worried about the inherent dangers of unaligned AGI, but that's a different issue.)
- Jensson 3y ago
  > I wouldn't call those equipment "autonomous" though, definitely not "highly autonomous". Why? Tractors run and harvest mostly on their own. They don't do it 100% on their own, but neither did the definition above, they remove basically all human work needed from farming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvFoRk4JsPc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvFoRk4JsPc > But more importantly - yes, you're right, we have built machines that are superhuman in various ways - and they have replaced most jobs. We have adapted in the past to different jobs. My point is that I think it is a crappy definition for "AGI". I think a non-AGI agent can replace a large majority of jobs we have today, just like it has before. And maybe there will not be much more jobs average humans can do left then, but that still doesn't mean it has to be AGI.
  - kortilla 3y ago
    > Why? Tractors run and harvest mostly on their own. This is incorrect. Most tractors are still human operated. The automated ones still frequently stop and need remote operator intervention via camera review.

edanm 3y ago

I wouldn't call those equipment "autonomous" though, definitely not "highly autonomous". But more importantly - yes, you're right, we have built machines that are superhuman in various ways - and they have replaced most jobs. We have adapted in the past to different jobs. Some people are worried that this time we won't have any new jobs to adapt to, which is a real possibility. (Some are also worried about the inherent dangers of unaligned AGI, but that's a different issue.)

Jensson 3y ago
> I wouldn't call those equipment "autonomous" though, definitely not "highly autonomous". Why? Tractors run and harvest mostly on their own. They don't do it 100% on their own, but neither did the definition above, they remove basically all human work needed from farming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvFoRk4JsPc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvFoRk4JsPc > But more importantly - yes, you're right, we have built machines that are superhuman in various ways - and they have replaced most jobs. We have adapted in the past to different jobs. My point is that I think it is a crappy definition for "AGI". I think a non-AGI agent can replace a large majority of jobs we have today, just like it has before. And maybe there will not be much more jobs average humans can do left then, but that still doesn't mean it has to be AGI.
- kortilla 3y ago
  > Why? Tractors run and harvest mostly on their own. This is incorrect. Most tractors are still human operated. The automated ones still frequently stop and need remote operator intervention via camera review.