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Android users have been banging this drum about the iPhone supremacists for an actual decade at this point and it so, so goddamn tiring. I buy iPhones for a nu

Android users have been banging this drum about the iPhone supremacists for an actual decade at this point and it so, so goddamn tiring. I buy iPhones for a number of reasons: - Ecosystem which has been explained at length so often you'd have to have your head under a rock to not know what it means - Ease of transfer of data between phones/tablets and replacements, along with constant sync - Excellent build quality - The OS is consistently good (not perfect, but good) and devices in general have a long life from purchase to replacement. I just recently had to FINALLY replace my gen 4 Watch with an SE, that I originally purchased in 2018. That's FIVE YEARS of daily use. "An Android" by contrast can be fucking anything from a $20 Aliexpress special farted out with spare parts from NIGYEHO Ltd. and an ancient version of the OS that barely runs on the hardware, to a mid-tier perfectly acceptable phone that will no doubt be nearly bricked in the event you try and update the OS, to a multi-thousand-dollar premiere Samsung powerhouse that would utterly spank most iPhones at most functions and will probably last you ten years if you take good care of it. And what irritates the shit out of me is Android users that treat the last one like you get it at the price of the first one, and then call Apple users elitist for buying a very similarly priced phone. It is truly mind-bending to me how effective Google's marketing has been to paint themselves constantly as the scrappy underdog fighting the conformist and snobby Apple fanbase, which is not to say there aren't any pricks who swing their iPhone around like it makes them hot shit, there almost certainly are, but to say that's the norm is completely outside my and anyone I know's experience of the matter.

richwater 3y ago
Beautifully put.
skeaker 3y ago
What makes your anecdote more valuable than GP's? You may not know anyone who does the "snobby conformist" act, but GP does. Why should I care that you haven't experienced it when someone who actually has experienced it tells me so? Moreover, since you admit those people exist, why wouldn't you support interoperability between iMessage and other platforms? It would only benefit you as a user since it would allow you to message your friends that are on Androids, and wouldn't be to your detriment at all since you're not doing the "snobby" act yourself. Where is your defensiveness coming from? It sounds like you're on the same team as GP.
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- ToucanLoucan 3y ago
  > What makes your anecdote more valuable than GP's? You may not know anyone who does the "snobby conformist" act, but GP does. Why should I care that you haven't experienced it when someone who actually has experienced it tells me so? Arguably you should care about neither then. > Moreover, since you admit those people exist, why wouldn't you support interoperability between iMessage and other platforms? There is interoperability. SMS texting is built into the same app. No, you don't get reactions... because that's not supported on SMS. No, you don't get replies for the same reason. However everything that is possible in the SMS standard is implemented in Messages completely normally, the sole difference being the chat color, and personally I'm fine with that because it lets me know immediately that Messages only features are going to be a no-go for this particular conversation. > Where is your defensiveness coming from? Implicit in the notion that iPhones are merely fashion accessories is that those who buy them are foolish. You're free to say I'm getting defensive, I wouldn't say you're entirely wrong. But if you really want to talk anecdotes, I have pages upon pages I could write of various experiences of having my credentials as an network engineer questioned because I don't have an android device or that I prefer a Mac computer.
  - skeaker 3y ago
    Okay? Again, you're agreeing on every point except an unrelated anecdote. I agree that getting jerked around for using Apple stuff is dumb too. Do you even take any issue with Beeper Mini or did I misread somewhere?
SpaghettiCthulu 3y ago
> - Excellent build quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS0SItAzEXg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS0SItAzEXg Keep drinking your kool-aid.
- ToucanLoucan 3y ago
  Yeah I'd be willing to bet open flame on pretty much any smartphone screen is going to cause damage. I get around that by not lighting my phone on fire.

richwater 3y ago

Beautifully put.

skeaker 3y ago

What makes your anecdote more valuable than GP's? You may not know anyone who does the "snobby conformist" act, but GP does. Why should I care that you haven't experienced it when someone who actually has experienced it tells me so? Moreover, since you admit those people exist, why wouldn't you support interoperability between iMessage and other platforms? It would only benefit you as a user since it would allow you to message your friends that are on Androids, and wouldn't be to your detriment at all since you're not doing the "snobby" act yourself. Where is your defensiveness coming from? It sounds like you're on the same team as GP.

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ToucanLoucan 3y ago
> What makes your anecdote more valuable than GP's? You may not know anyone who does the "snobby conformist" act, but GP does. Why should I care that you haven't experienced it when someone who actually has experienced it tells me so? Arguably you should care about neither then. > Moreover, since you admit those people exist, why wouldn't you support interoperability between iMessage and other platforms? There is interoperability. SMS texting is built into the same app. No, you don't get reactions... because that's not supported on SMS. No, you don't get replies for the same reason. However everything that is possible in the SMS standard is implemented in Messages completely normally, the sole difference being the chat color, and personally I'm fine with that because it lets me know immediately that Messages only features are going to be a no-go for this particular conversation. > Where is your defensiveness coming from? Implicit in the notion that iPhones are merely fashion accessories is that those who buy them are foolish. You're free to say I'm getting defensive, I wouldn't say you're entirely wrong. But if you really want to talk anecdotes, I have pages upon pages I could write of various experiences of having my credentials as an network engineer questioned because I don't have an android device or that I prefer a Mac computer.
- skeaker 3y ago
  Okay? Again, you're agreeing on every point except an unrelated anecdote. I agree that getting jerked around for using Apple stuff is dumb too. Do you even take any issue with Beeper Mini or did I misread somewhere?

SpaghettiCthulu 3y ago

> - Excellent build quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS0SItAzEXg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS0SItAzEXg Keep drinking your kool-aid.

ToucanLoucan 3y ago
Yeah I'd be willing to bet open flame on pretty much any smartphone screen is going to cause damage. I get around that by not lighting my phone on fire.