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When I work with new devs I can often trip them up with basic tests of double-clicking, leading spaces, using the back button on Android. They then learn these

When I work with new devs I can often trip them up with basic tests of double-clicking, leading spaces, using the back button on Android. They then learn these and from then on these issues dont appear ( well, OK, it might take a couple of times of a ticket being rejected because of these but they do quickly learn all my tricks ) I don't get measured on bugs found so there's no pressure on me to find stupid bugs just to boost my figures.

hotpotamus 3y ago
I had a buddy who liked to do that kind of thing. I think his favorite trick was just to enter nothing in a form and hit enter to see what happens. It's probably his favorite because it deleted the database on some little thing I wrote at one point and we got a good laugh over it and I got a good lesson out of it.
- philk10 3y ago
  Yep, I start off by entering nothing, then just spaces, then special characters and then finally get to entering some typical data
godelski 3y ago
> I don't get measured on bugs found so there's no pressure on me to find stupid bugs just to boost my figures. Sounds like the right incentive structure. If you don't mind, how are you judged? Do you feel like the system you're in is creating the appropriate incentives and actually being effective? Certainly this example is but I'd like to know more details from an expert so I can update my understanding.
- philk10 3y ago
  The system is really effective, I wanted to work at a place where the cliche "everyone cares about quality" is actually true and I found it - devs test, designers test, I test, customer has the chance to test the latest build every 2 weeks so that we can check that our quality checks are aligning with theirs. It gets to be a game of 'can the devs get it past my checks' and 'can I find new ways to trip them up' which builds up confidence in each others skill levels.
  - godelski 3y ago
    That's cool to hear. I also like the periodic table on your team's site haha. Looks like great philosophy

hotpotamus 3y ago

I had a buddy who liked to do that kind of thing. I think his favorite trick was just to enter nothing in a form and hit enter to see what happens. It's probably his favorite because it deleted the database on some little thing I wrote at one point and we got a good laugh over it and I got a good lesson out of it.

philk10 3y ago
Yep, I start off by entering nothing, then just spaces, then special characters and then finally get to entering some typical data

godelski 3y ago

> I don't get measured on bugs found so there's no pressure on me to find stupid bugs just to boost my figures. Sounds like the right incentive structure. If you don't mind, how are you judged? Do you feel like the system you're in is creating the appropriate incentives and actually being effective? Certainly this example is but I'd like to know more details from an expert so I can update my understanding.

philk10 3y ago
The system is really effective, I wanted to work at a place where the cliche "everyone cares about quality" is actually true and I found it - devs test, designers test, I test, customer has the chance to test the latest build every 2 weeks so that we can check that our quality checks are aligning with theirs. It gets to be a game of 'can the devs get it past my checks' and 'can I find new ways to trip them up' which builds up confidence in each others skill levels.
- godelski 3y ago
  That's cool to hear. I also like the periodic table on your team's site haha. Looks like great philosophy