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I would say your post is the false propaganda, pretending everything is one sided and extremely complex, and that people should not be emotional when emotion is

I would say your post is the false propaganda, pretending everything is one sided and extremely complex, and that people should not be emotional when emotion is the root of ethics. Whatever your thoughts on how this war started, what's currently happening is clearly a massacre of the civilians of Gaza.

Zetobal 3y ago
No as you admitted in your other comment you are just biased.
- jfoweif 3y ago
  Again, how can you be perfectly "objective" writing about something when morality is subjective and based on emotion at its core. We can write about the facts and attempt to convince the audience based on appealing to their moral values, which is what OP is doing.
  - Zetobal 3y ago
    The problem is that people like you who are overthrown by their own emotions talk about objectivity. The only thing you champion with a view like yours is moral relativism.
    - pbiggar 3y ago
      Of course we're biased. 20,000 people have been killed by indescrimimate bombing. I would hope that makes you biased too
      - Zetobal 3y ago
        As long as the only solution is a one sided ceasefire there is no solution. That's what you people have to understand. You can be biased as much as you want to just pondering on one solution doesn't help anyone. The people in the region should understand that from experience.
        nashadelic 3y ago
        A ceasefire is no solution and no one is calling it that. It’s a moral imperative that anyone with a shred of humanity can support given all key observers, including Biden, has called the Likud campaign indiscriminate bombing. The bombing is not going to do anything. Hamas is not a regular army, there are 30k+ Hamas, when IDF tells people to clear an area, do you not think the Hamas clears it as well? Then what will all this bombing achieve? Hamas will perform these attacks again, so long as Israel keeps closing millions of people in a box, in the world’s largest starvation camp, this cycle will come continue. The only rational solution is a two state solution. Right now, Israel is pushing more people into Hamas, you can’t kill people’s children with your bombs and then even attempt to shift responsibility. With nearly 20,000 people killed, Israel conducts an Oct 7, every 4 days, does so with impunity and cruelty.
        Zetobal 3y ago
        Than put whatever you want on the table and don't go for the tiniest of denominators a ceasefire will change nothing it will probably worsen the situation for civilians because every side will have real breaches and even more propaganda ones. If not now when is the point to find a permanent solution if it's two states or whatever. Wasting time on a useless solution like it is done now will help no one except virtue signalling and everyone knows it.
        nashadelic 3y ago
        Because a ceasefire stops the murder of innocents. This has to be above all hypotheticals.

Zetobal 3y ago

No as you admitted in your other comment you are just biased.

jfoweif 3y ago
Again, how can you be perfectly "objective" writing about something when morality is subjective and based on emotion at its core. We can write about the facts and attempt to convince the audience based on appealing to their moral values, which is what OP is doing.
- Zetobal 3y ago
  The problem is that people like you who are overthrown by their own emotions talk about objectivity. The only thing you champion with a view like yours is moral relativism.
  - pbiggar 3y ago
    Of course we're biased. 20,000 people have been killed by indescrimimate bombing. I would hope that makes you biased too
    - Zetobal 3y ago
      As long as the only solution is a one sided ceasefire there is no solution. That's what you people have to understand. You can be biased as much as you want to just pondering on one solution doesn't help anyone. The people in the region should understand that from experience.
      - nashadelic 3y ago
        A ceasefire is no solution and no one is calling it that. It’s a moral imperative that anyone with a shred of humanity can support given all key observers, including Biden, has called the Likud campaign indiscriminate bombing. The bombing is not going to do anything. Hamas is not a regular army, there are 30k+ Hamas, when IDF tells people to clear an area, do you not think the Hamas clears it as well? Then what will all this bombing achieve? Hamas will perform these attacks again, so long as Israel keeps closing millions of people in a box, in the world’s largest starvation camp, this cycle will come continue. The only rational solution is a two state solution. Right now, Israel is pushing more people into Hamas, you can’t kill people’s children with your bombs and then even attempt to shift responsibility. With nearly 20,000 people killed, Israel conducts an Oct 7, every 4 days, does so with impunity and cruelty.
        Zetobal 3y ago
        Than put whatever you want on the table and don't go for the tiniest of denominators a ceasefire will change nothing it will probably worsen the situation for civilians because every side will have real breaches and even more propaganda ones. If not now when is the point to find a permanent solution if it's two states or whatever. Wasting time on a useless solution like it is done now will help no one except virtue signalling and everyone knows it.
        nashadelic 3y ago
        Because a ceasefire stops the murder of innocents. This has to be above all hypotheticals.