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> it can do anything a human can do. So it can get up and walk down the street? Not trying to be pedantic, but when one is defining things, one needs to be pr

> it can do anything a human can do. So it can get up and walk down the street? Not trying to be pedantic, but when one is defining things, one needs to be precise.

p1esk 3y ago
Yes, when put in a robotic body.
- dumbo-octopus 3y ago
  Is the robotic body capable of metabolism, growth, and self-repair?
  - selfhoster11 3y ago
    No. Is a human body that suffers from selected kinds of sickness for that matter? Also no.
    - dumbo-octopus 3y ago
      Pardon? Are you saying that because a human can't heal from all kinds of sickness, healing from some kinds isn't "a thing a human can do"?
      - famouswaffles 3y ago
        Not every human body is really capable of any of "metabolism, growth, self repair" Do you want a list of the kinds of afflictions that stunt these ? For the ones that can't, they don't deserve to be called intelligent ? What any of that has to do with intelligence is honestly beyond me.
        dumbo-octopus 3y ago
        > Not every human body is really capable of any of "metabolism, growth, self repair" 99.9% percent of them are, and those that aren't would be considered malformed. > For the ones that can't, they don't deserve to be called intelligent? What any of that has to do with intelligence is honestly beyond me. You haven't been paying attention to this thread, yet you reply to it? Please reread it, in particular the parent's argument I was responding to. Such context would be helpful to have when responding to me, yes?
- kweingar 3y ago
  In this case, we are far from AGI
- BobaFloutist 3y ago
  Ok so that's no "AI" that currently exists then.
  - jcims 3y ago
    Not for long https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1734763060244386074 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1734763060244386074 Boston Dynamics’ Atlas it’s probably a more capable robot at the moment but Optimus will be much better position to act as an embodied agent in the next few years.
    - BobaFloutist 3y ago
      Then the AI isn't going for a walk, the robot is going for a walk. I can currently take an AI for a walk on my laptop, that's not the same as them being able to go for a walk.
  - famouswaffles 3y ago
    >Ok so that's no "AI" that currently exists then. Lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnkM0AecxYA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnkM0AecxYA This is far from the first of this class of LLM robots too https://tidybot.cs.princeton.edu/ https://tidybot.cs.princeton.edu/
huytersd 3y ago
Is it has a mean of locomotion, yes.
voiceblue 3y ago
Indeed, and accepting that definition still fails to include extraterrestrial life. (The way that first sentence is written in TFA made me think of first contact). Anyhow, it’s too late for “AGI” and “superintelligence”, aside from the baggage they also suffer from being in everyone’s domain to do with as they please. Precise terms inherently cannot be abused like this (compare “sore throat” to “acute viral laryngitis”).
selfhoster11 3y ago
From my experiments? Given a physical chassis with a high-level API (move one step forward, rotate head, that kind of thing), then yes. Even as early as GPT-3.5 it was starting to become possible, and with GPT-4, it's become quite easy. Someone just needs to put in the elbow grease to glue the components together and patiently wait while it does its thing.

> it can do anything a human can do. So it can get up and walk down the street? Not trying to be pedantic, but when one is defining things, one needs to be precise.

p1esk 3y ago

Yes, when put in a robotic body.

dumbo-octopus 3y ago
Is the robotic body capable of metabolism, growth, and self-repair?
- selfhoster11 3y ago
  No. Is a human body that suffers from selected kinds of sickness for that matter? Also no.
  - dumbo-octopus 3y ago
    Pardon? Are you saying that because a human can't heal from all kinds of sickness, healing from some kinds isn't "a thing a human can do"?
    - famouswaffles 3y ago
      Not every human body is really capable of any of "metabolism, growth, self repair" Do you want a list of the kinds of afflictions that stunt these ? For the ones that can't, they don't deserve to be called intelligent ? What any of that has to do with intelligence is honestly beyond me.
      - dumbo-octopus 3y ago
        > Not every human body is really capable of any of "metabolism, growth, self repair" 99.9% percent of them are, and those that aren't would be considered malformed. > For the ones that can't, they don't deserve to be called intelligent? What any of that has to do with intelligence is honestly beyond me. You haven't been paying attention to this thread, yet you reply to it? Please reread it, in particular the parent's argument I was responding to. Such context would be helpful to have when responding to me, yes?
kweingar 3y ago
In this case, we are far from AGI
BobaFloutist 3y ago
Ok so that's no "AI" that currently exists then.
- jcims 3y ago
  Not for long https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1734763060244386074 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1734763060244386074 Boston Dynamics’ Atlas it’s probably a more capable robot at the moment but Optimus will be much better position to act as an embodied agent in the next few years.
  - BobaFloutist 3y ago
    Then the AI isn't going for a walk, the robot is going for a walk. I can currently take an AI for a walk on my laptop, that's not the same as them being able to go for a walk.
- famouswaffles 3y ago
  >Ok so that's no "AI" that currently exists then. Lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnkM0AecxYA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnkM0AecxYA This is far from the first of this class of LLM robots too https://tidybot.cs.princeton.edu/ https://tidybot.cs.princeton.edu/

huytersd 3y ago

Is it has a mean of locomotion, yes.

voiceblue 3y ago

Indeed, and accepting that definition still fails to include extraterrestrial life. (The way that first sentence is written in TFA made me think of first contact). Anyhow, it’s too late for “AGI” and “superintelligence”, aside from the baggage they also suffer from being in everyone’s domain to do with as they please. Precise terms inherently cannot be abused like this (compare “sore throat” to “acute viral laryngitis”).

selfhoster11 3y ago

From my experiments? Given a physical chassis with a high-level API (move one step forward, rotate head, that kind of thing), then yes. Even as early as GPT-3.5 it was starting to become possible, and with GPT-4, it's become quite easy. Someone just needs to put in the elbow grease to glue the components together and patiently wait while it does its thing.