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> Portland was home to the UX designers who wanted to redesign everything to look nicer but didn't understand how customers used our products. MirkoTik has als

> Portland was home to the UX designers who wanted to redesign everything to look nicer but didn't understand how customers used our products. MirkoTik has also been updating their UI this year and it's only getting worse. They are starting to put everything into auto-collapsed sections so that instead of just scrolling down the page you now must remember the section's title and open it in order to access the controls. There are hundreds of sections.

cmsj 3y ago
Mikrotik's UI was terrible to begin with, just a big 90s smorgasboard in the style of My First Visual Basic App.
- karolist 3y ago
  The Dude. edit: more context, that's the Win UI manager with the 90s look for MikroTik. It's not pretty but I know fairly large ISP admins swearing by it https://mikrotik.com/thedude https://mikrotik.com/thedude
- dishsoap 3y ago
  I like it, it just works and everything in it makes sense. Very refreshing compared to a lot of the things we have today.
- vetinari 3y ago
  Winbox UI might be not according to the latest UX fashion, but is pretty effective.
  - alyandon 3y ago
    Yeah, seriously - it's ugly and quirky but generally all the settings you care about are there and I don't have to click through 15 different levels of menus or look things up in the wiki for the proper cli invocation when I need to tweak something.
  - bobbob1921 3y ago
    Exactly, I can think of very few tools/apps that are as effective and powerful as winbox. Not to mention that the entire program is portable and around a few megabytes in size) For probably the past 10 to 15 years there has not been a moment that I haven’t had at least two winbox sessions open/running on my daily desktop 24/7. (Network/Wi-Fi admin , responsible for thousands of devices)
- lencastre 3y ago
  Some people like VB6 and its aesthetic.
  - alyandon 3y ago
    The kind of sad thing is that you could style forms/controls in VB6 so apps didn't have to look that way.
bogantech 3y ago
Webfig I presume? The first rule of webfig is: don't use webfig
- qwertox 3y ago
  There were no issues with Webfig. These newly collapsed sections are tabbed sections in WinBox, so there you've had the problem since the beginning. It's a matter of preference and I've always preferred Webfig. I'm a MikroTik user since 2013 and have 9 devices which I like a lot. I only used WinBox when I misconfigured them a bit in order to access them via the MAC address.
- sgt 3y ago
  Makes it useful for someone who doesn't really use Mikrotik a lot to be able to browse through and explore.
- bobbob1921 3y ago
  This made me laugh, because it’s so true. Of course then, the second rule of webfig is: you can’t even use webfig bc both web services have already been disabled
jbverschoor 3y ago
> Portland was home to the UX designers who wanted to redesign everything to look nicer but didn't understand how customers used our products. That means they're not UX designers, but simply illustrators without actual illustration skills
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  Or they're UX designers without actual UX design skills?
  - egberts1 3y ago
    Or chronically warped by their recreational activities.

cmsj 3y ago

Mikrotik's UI was terrible to begin with, just a big 90s smorgasboard in the style of My First Visual Basic App.

karolist 3y ago
The Dude. edit: more context, that's the Win UI manager with the 90s look for MikroTik. It's not pretty but I know fairly large ISP admins swearing by it https://mikrotik.com/thedude https://mikrotik.com/thedude
dishsoap 3y ago
I like it, it just works and everything in it makes sense. Very refreshing compared to a lot of the things we have today.
vetinari 3y ago
Winbox UI might be not according to the latest UX fashion, but is pretty effective.
- alyandon 3y ago
  Yeah, seriously - it's ugly and quirky but generally all the settings you care about are there and I don't have to click through 15 different levels of menus or look things up in the wiki for the proper cli invocation when I need to tweak something.
- bobbob1921 3y ago
  Exactly, I can think of very few tools/apps that are as effective and powerful as winbox. Not to mention that the entire program is portable and around a few megabytes in size) For probably the past 10 to 15 years there has not been a moment that I haven’t had at least two winbox sessions open/running on my daily desktop 24/7. (Network/Wi-Fi admin , responsible for thousands of devices)
lencastre 3y ago
Some people like VB6 and its aesthetic.
- alyandon 3y ago
  The kind of sad thing is that you could style forms/controls in VB6 so apps didn't have to look that way.

bogantech 3y ago

Webfig I presume? The first rule of webfig is: don't use webfig

qwertox 3y ago
There were no issues with Webfig. These newly collapsed sections are tabbed sections in WinBox, so there you've had the problem since the beginning. It's a matter of preference and I've always preferred Webfig. I'm a MikroTik user since 2013 and have 9 devices which I like a lot. I only used WinBox when I misconfigured them a bit in order to access them via the MAC address.
sgt 3y ago
Makes it useful for someone who doesn't really use Mikrotik a lot to be able to browse through and explore.
bobbob1921 3y ago
This made me laugh, because it’s so true. Of course then, the second rule of webfig is: you can’t even use webfig bc both web services have already been disabled

jbverschoor 3y ago

> Portland was home to the UX designers who wanted to redesign everything to look nicer but didn't understand how customers used our products. That means they're not UX designers, but simply illustrators without actual illustration skills

robertlagrant 3y ago
Or they're UX designers without actual UX design skills?
- egberts1 3y ago
  Or chronically warped by their recreational activities.