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>Not wanting your children to be influenced by pornography at a formative age is a very reasonable fear in this era. I agree, so as a developer do you think it

>Not wanting your children to be influenced by pornography at a formative age is a very reasonable fear in this era. I agree, so as a developer do you think it is easier to block porn at OS level and your router or you think that is safer that some regulation that only some websites will follow is more effective ? I read about some proposal for adult website to scan your face before granting access and other idiotic schemes, where the super obvious KISS solution is have Android, iOS, Windows, Ubuntu etc have an idiot proof way for a parent to setup a child account, this child account will set some cookie or whatever flag you want so websites can refuse to serve content to them. Also the big tech could use their combined energy to have a blacklist of bad websites that do not respect the rules like maybe advertisers. TLDR as a parent do not wait for the goverment to protect your child from porn, open Google and figure it out,

nibnic 3y ago
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- some_random 3y ago
  It would be so much easier for people to ignore you if you just stated your values up front you know? Maybe next time you could even use your real account instead of multiple sock puppets.
  - nextaltaccount 3y ago
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- simion314 3y ago
  I agree with defensive in depth but that is contradicting priovacy if I need to show my face or ID card to a porn website, or how otehrs claim that reddit and TikTok is almost porn I should show my ID to all social media. As I said a parent should not allow the child to access social media that is targeting adults. The OS can put a flag and the websites can reject those connections, no need for destroying privacy. Not all porn is women exploration, there are this days this OnlyFans women that are exploiting men but who should decide what is and what is not exploitation. There is also CGI or AI porn, there are nude and artworks that religious extremists complain about. You can't stop porn so better don't wait for that day and setup your child devices if they need one properly.
- VBprogrammer 3y ago
  There are probably reasonable ways for the government to do this. Some kind of government run validation website where a user can generate a code to validate their age to each individual website is probably ok (in the UK we have a similar system for providing driving licence information to rental companies for example). Mandating that people do face scans or, even worse, send their IDs to potentially scummy websites is batshit crazy though. If what a government really want to do is ban access to pornographic content then they should be able to make that case to the electorate.
  - simion314 3y ago
    >There are probably reasonable ways for the government to do this. Some kind of government run validation website where a user can generate a code to validate their age to each individual website is probably ok (in the UK we have a similar system for providing driving licence information to rental companies for example). Why not just the parent sets the child device to "kid mode" and that is it. otherwise how do you make different national systems work World wide ? Your idea is valid but seems much more harder to implement. With my proposal where the parent and the OS vendor collaborate on this seems much more flexible and would work even better, like religious extremists could configure their child and their own devices to block much more then porn.
    - VBprogrammer 3y ago
      I'm mostly with you. In fact I've often wished that browsers did more things like that, for example cookie warnings. The cookie warning thing is a ridiculous misunderstanding of how things should work. The server doesn't store things on your PC, it just offers them to your browser, it's up to the browser to return them or not, it doesn't even require new protocols. But of course kids are resourceful and will find a way of accessing content they want to access, for example maybe using a games console or something a parent might not immediately think of as having a browser. Whether it actually makes sense to protect kids from themselves to that extent I think is a valid question which I'm not sure I have the answer. I know passing around CDs full of such content was common when I was young (in the early days of the internet).
- loceng 3y ago
  What about consenting women who've not been coerced or pressured in any way? You want to take people's free will away, seems to be another perspective to your belief.

nibnic 3y ago

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some_random 3y ago
It would be so much easier for people to ignore you if you just stated your values up front you know? Maybe next time you could even use your real account instead of multiple sock puppets.
- nextaltaccount 3y ago
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simion314 3y ago
I agree with defensive in depth but that is contradicting priovacy if I need to show my face or ID card to a porn website, or how otehrs claim that reddit and TikTok is almost porn I should show my ID to all social media. As I said a parent should not allow the child to access social media that is targeting adults. The OS can put a flag and the websites can reject those connections, no need for destroying privacy. Not all porn is women exploration, there are this days this OnlyFans women that are exploiting men but who should decide what is and what is not exploitation. There is also CGI or AI porn, there are nude and artworks that religious extremists complain about. You can't stop porn so better don't wait for that day and setup your child devices if they need one properly.
VBprogrammer 3y ago
There are probably reasonable ways for the government to do this. Some kind of government run validation website where a user can generate a code to validate their age to each individual website is probably ok (in the UK we have a similar system for providing driving licence information to rental companies for example). Mandating that people do face scans or, even worse, send their IDs to potentially scummy websites is batshit crazy though. If what a government really want to do is ban access to pornographic content then they should be able to make that case to the electorate.
- simion314 3y ago
  >There are probably reasonable ways for the government to do this. Some kind of government run validation website where a user can generate a code to validate their age to each individual website is probably ok (in the UK we have a similar system for providing driving licence information to rental companies for example). Why not just the parent sets the child device to "kid mode" and that is it. otherwise how do you make different national systems work World wide ? Your idea is valid but seems much more harder to implement. With my proposal where the parent and the OS vendor collaborate on this seems much more flexible and would work even better, like religious extremists could configure their child and their own devices to block much more then porn.
  - VBprogrammer 3y ago
    I'm mostly with you. In fact I've often wished that browsers did more things like that, for example cookie warnings. The cookie warning thing is a ridiculous misunderstanding of how things should work. The server doesn't store things on your PC, it just offers them to your browser, it's up to the browser to return them or not, it doesn't even require new protocols. But of course kids are resourceful and will find a way of accessing content they want to access, for example maybe using a games console or something a parent might not immediately think of as having a browser. Whether it actually makes sense to protect kids from themselves to that extent I think is a valid question which I'm not sure I have the answer. I know passing around CDs full of such content was common when I was young (in the early days of the internet).
loceng 3y ago
What about consenting women who've not been coerced or pressured in any way? You want to take people's free will away, seems to be another perspective to your belief.