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It's not absurd. Siri is listening for "hey siri" all the time. Folks don't really grok how that's different than Facebook spying as described. I'm frankly not

It's not absurd. Siri is listening for "hey siri" all the time. Folks don't really grok how that's different than Facebook spying as described. I'm frankly not sure that it's impossible, just that there's enough churn of Facebook employees that it would eventually leak if it was being done.

jdietrich 3y ago
It's plausible to a naive observer, but it's absurd from a technical level. As you're probably aware, there's an entirely separate low-power coprocessor tasked with understanding just the words "hey Siri", because keeping the main processor awake for that task would absolutely destroy the battery life.
- flerchin 3y ago
  It's not absurd from a technical level. The coprocessor can absolutely have a larger vocabulary and adding an entry to local storage for hearing "tennis watch" would be valuable for ad-marketing.
fallingknife 3y ago
It's not impossible to do, but impossible to hide, and not feasible to do anyway. The technical complexity is massively higher than just using your browser history, which means there would have to be a huge team that does it, and therefore no secrecy. Also for the same reason it would be massively more expensive than existing data collection, but the ads would sell for the same price,.so it's not economically viable.
hinkley 3y ago
I think some people need to figure out how those high speed video cameras work. It would affect their view of what is possible and not possible with electronics. The ELI5 version is that it can watch everything and then keep the bits that happen just before the person hits the button. That’s how they can catch things that explode or do something and you aren’t sure when it will happen. Like popcorn popping. Siri is basically doing the same thing. Siri also misfires. And that data can be sent in.

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It's not absurd. Siri is listening for "hey siri" all the time. Folks don't really grok how that's different than Facebook spying as described. I'm frankly not

by flerchin 3y ago

jdietrich 3y ago
It's plausible to a naive observer, but it's absurd from a technical level. As you're probably aware, there's an entirely separate low-power coprocessor tasked with understanding just the words "hey Siri", because keeping the main processor awake for that task would absolutely destroy the battery life.
- flerchin 3y ago
  It's not absurd from a technical level. The coprocessor can absolutely have a larger vocabulary and adding an entry to local storage for hearing "tennis watch" would be valuable for ad-marketing.
fallingknife 3y ago
It's not impossible to do, but impossible to hide, and not feasible to do anyway. The technical complexity is massively higher than just using your browser history, which means there would have to be a huge team that does it, and therefore no secrecy. Also for the same reason it would be massively more expensive than existing data collection, but the ads would sell for the same price,.so it's not economically viable.
hinkley 3y ago
I think some people need to figure out how those high speed video cameras work. It would affect their view of what is possible and not possible with electronics. The ELI5 version is that it can watch everything and then keep the bits that happen just before the person hits the button. That’s how they can catch things that explode or do something and you aren’t sure when it will happen. Like popcorn popping. Siri is basically doing the same thing. Siri also misfires. And that data can be sent in.