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Trump, Trump, Trump. Is anyone else sick of living in a world where that is the media’s answer to literally every question?

meowface 3y ago
A lot of the article is about how the New York Times was too negatively obsessed with Trump. The author definitely doesn't like Trump, but a big focus is on the anti-Trump bias.
taylodl 3y ago
Trump has 4 indictments amounting to a total of 91 felony charges. I think every single American should be obsessed with ensuring that dictator wannabe never sees the insides of the Oval Office again. I'm sick of living in a world having people like you failing to recognizing the clear and present danger Trump presents.
- mrangle 3y ago
  Trump could have been charged with 9 or 911 felony charges, and it would still look like political persecution. If this precendent was going to be set, it can't have come after four years of a press induced national Russia hysteria targeting him. That failed to jail him. That was the single politically allowable wager, and it lost. Now the people who are still casually using words and phrases like "dictator" and "clear and present danger" seem to be projecting.
  - tchock23 3y ago
    At this point they aren’t projecting, they are just using his own words: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/06/donald-trump-sean-hannity-dictator-day-one-response-iowa-town-hall https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/06/donald-trump...
    - mrangle 3y ago
      You think that you're making a point by implying that what he said was different than what it was? All that he said is that he's going to enforce existing border law and drill for oil. Two things that are within the scope of "dictatorial" executive power on any mundane day. If you want to stop that type of dictatorship, you'll need a time machine to speak with George Washington. The only thing that will haunt this nation for generations to come is this type of bs that seeks to reframe what you are referring to as sinister. And it won't stand up to the long memory of the successful antidemocratic effort to completely hobble a democratically elected POTUS while in office, threaten the nation with nine months of murderous riots before an election, distract from that effort by mischaracterizing a three hour riot and imprison its particpants, and then attempt to imprison DT using unprecedented charges because he's again running. Utilizing lots of "dictatorial" open lies and evidence suppression in the attempt. But go on. The question that DT answered was filtered down from the Left wing MSM, who is apoplectic at the possibility that they and others will be wrapped up in conspiracy, and worse, charges due to their antidemocratic, and worse, actions since 2016. They are attempting to insulate themselves from culpability by attempting to make DT deny that he will seek reprisal in exactly the same manner of hostility that he and others have experienced. Lest he be a "dictator". His answer well trolled the brazenly hypocritical attempt.
  - micromacrofoot 3y ago
    I wish I were projecting the lifetime of bullshit I’m going to have to deal with because trump was in office for 4 years
  - taylodl 3y ago
    It was Trump's own words. I advise you listen to him.
- bequanna 3y ago
  I guess I don’t see the “clear and present danger”. It just isn’t obvious to me. Can you elaborate on the specific things Trump did that have shaped your opinion to think he is a “dictator wannabe”?
  - bryanlarsen 3y ago
    The willing transfer of power is the most fundamental aspect of democracy. You can have a partial democracy with flawed voting, etc. But if the loser refuses to step down, it's no longer a democracy. More dangerous than what he has done is what he has said. He has said that he will be a dictator on day one.
    - thegrim33 3y ago
      No, he has not. The insanely biased partisan media you're consuming that has convinced you of this is the very thing this thread is about.
      - micromacrofoot 3y ago
        > “I love this guy,” he said of the Fox News host. “He says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said: ‘No, no, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.’”
        bryanlarsen 3y ago
        It didn't come from left wing media, it came from a Hannity interview.
        micromacrofoot 3y ago
        I really can't believe people are seriously still in the "don't worry about what he actually says" stage of this
        3y ago
giardini 3y ago
Maybe not enough. Today's most explosive headline: "One-in-Five Mail-In Voters Admit They Cheated in 2020 Election" https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/one_in_five_mail_in_voters_admit_they_cheated_in_2020_election https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/par...
- noitpmeder 3y ago
  Just for those who may not be aware of Rasmutin... ``` Nate Silver described Rasmussen as "biased and inaccurate", saying Rasmussen "badly missed the margin in many states, and also exhibited a considerable bias toward Republican candidates." ```
  - giardini 3y ago
    Just for those who may not be aware of Nate Silver: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=FiveThirtyEight https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=FiveThirtyEight rates Nate Silver's site, FiveThirtyEight, as having "LEFT-CENTER BIAS". https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rasmussen-reports/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rasmussen-reports/ rates Rasmussen reports (who did the poll showing 1 in 5 persons used mail-in votes to commit election fraud) as having "RIGHT-CENTER BIAS". That having been said, so what? Suppose the poll had revealed that HALF the actual number illegally used mail-in voting? How about 1 in 20? Would that be OK with you? Fact is, mail-in voting has proven to be a failure and a scourge on our democracy. Get rid of it.
  - giardini 3y ago
    Please cite a URL for this Nate Silver quote.

meowface 3y ago

A lot of the article is about how the New York Times was too negatively obsessed with Trump. The author definitely doesn't like Trump, but a big focus is on the anti-Trump bias.

taylodl 3y ago

Trump has 4 indictments amounting to a total of 91 felony charges. I think every single American should be obsessed with ensuring that dictator wannabe never sees the insides of the Oval Office again. I'm sick of living in a world having people like you failing to recognizing the clear and present danger Trump presents.

mrangle 3y ago
Trump could have been charged with 9 or 911 felony charges, and it would still look like political persecution. If this precendent was going to be set, it can't have come after four years of a press induced national Russia hysteria targeting him. That failed to jail him. That was the single politically allowable wager, and it lost. Now the people who are still casually using words and phrases like "dictator" and "clear and present danger" seem to be projecting.
- tchock23 3y ago
  At this point they aren’t projecting, they are just using his own words: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/06/donald-trump-sean-hannity-dictator-day-one-response-iowa-town-hall https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/06/donald-trump...
  - mrangle 3y ago
    You think that you're making a point by implying that what he said was different than what it was? All that he said is that he's going to enforce existing border law and drill for oil. Two things that are within the scope of "dictatorial" executive power on any mundane day. If you want to stop that type of dictatorship, you'll need a time machine to speak with George Washington. The only thing that will haunt this nation for generations to come is this type of bs that seeks to reframe what you are referring to as sinister. And it won't stand up to the long memory of the successful antidemocratic effort to completely hobble a democratically elected POTUS while in office, threaten the nation with nine months of murderous riots before an election, distract from that effort by mischaracterizing a three hour riot and imprison its particpants, and then attempt to imprison DT using unprecedented charges because he's again running. Utilizing lots of "dictatorial" open lies and evidence suppression in the attempt. But go on. The question that DT answered was filtered down from the Left wing MSM, who is apoplectic at the possibility that they and others will be wrapped up in conspiracy, and worse, charges due to their antidemocratic, and worse, actions since 2016. They are attempting to insulate themselves from culpability by attempting to make DT deny that he will seek reprisal in exactly the same manner of hostility that he and others have experienced. Lest he be a "dictator". His answer well trolled the brazenly hypocritical attempt.
- micromacrofoot 3y ago
  I wish I were projecting the lifetime of bullshit I’m going to have to deal with because trump was in office for 4 years
- taylodl 3y ago
  It was Trump's own words. I advise you listen to him.
bequanna 3y ago
I guess I don’t see the “clear and present danger”. It just isn’t obvious to me. Can you elaborate on the specific things Trump did that have shaped your opinion to think he is a “dictator wannabe”?
- bryanlarsen 3y ago
  The willing transfer of power is the most fundamental aspect of democracy. You can have a partial democracy with flawed voting, etc. But if the loser refuses to step down, it's no longer a democracy. More dangerous than what he has done is what he has said. He has said that he will be a dictator on day one.
  - thegrim33 3y ago
    No, he has not. The insanely biased partisan media you're consuming that has convinced you of this is the very thing this thread is about.
    - micromacrofoot 3y ago
      > “I love this guy,” he said of the Fox News host. “He says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said: ‘No, no, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.’”
      - bryanlarsen 3y ago
        It didn't come from left wing media, it came from a Hannity interview.
        micromacrofoot 3y ago
        I really can't believe people are seriously still in the "don't worry about what he actually says" stage of this
      - 3y ago

giardini 3y ago

Maybe not enough. Today's most explosive headline: "One-in-Five Mail-In Voters Admit They Cheated in 2020 Election" https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/one_in_five_mail_in_voters_admit_they_cheated_in_2020_election https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/par...

noitpmeder 3y ago
Just for those who may not be aware of Rasmutin... ``` Nate Silver described Rasmussen as "biased and inaccurate", saying Rasmussen "badly missed the margin in many states, and also exhibited a considerable bias toward Republican candidates." ```
- giardini 3y ago
  Just for those who may not be aware of Nate Silver: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=FiveThirtyEight https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=FiveThirtyEight rates Nate Silver's site, FiveThirtyEight, as having "LEFT-CENTER BIAS". https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rasmussen-reports/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rasmussen-reports/ rates Rasmussen reports (who did the poll showing 1 in 5 persons used mail-in votes to commit election fraud) as having "RIGHT-CENTER BIAS". That having been said, so what? Suppose the poll had revealed that HALF the actual number illegally used mail-in voting? How about 1 in 20? Would that be OK with you? Fact is, mail-in voting has proven to be a failure and a scourge on our democracy. Get rid of it.
- giardini 3y ago
  Please cite a URL for this Nate Silver quote.