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> No consumer vehicle has a driverless system that tolerates inattention... Mercedes's Drive Pilot (L3), which you can buy in a production car today, is explic

> No consumer vehicle has a driverless system that tolerates inattention... Mercedes's Drive Pilot (L3), which you can buy in a production car today, is explicitly advertised as allowing drivers to take their attention off the road and do other things in specific situations. It's not L5, but it'll absolutely tolerate inattention and let you e.g. pull out your iPad to wage an HN comment battle while it drives you from Berlin to Potsdam.

dangus 3y ago
> On suitable freeway sections and where there is high traffic density, DRIVE PILOT can offer to take over the dynamic driving task, up to the speed of 40 mph. https://group.mercedes-benz.com/innovation/product-innovation/autonomous-driving/drive-pilot-nevada.html https://group.mercedes-benz.com/innovation/product-innovatio...
idopmstuff 3y ago
> while it drives you from Berlin to Potsdam. This is maybe technically true but in practice not really correct. Some conditions to use it are (per https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manuals/drive-pilot https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manuals/drive-pilot): Clear lane markings on approved freeways Moderate to heavy traffic with speeds under 40 MPH Daytime lighting and clear weather So if it's night or raining or foggy, you can't use it for that drive. If there's no or little traffic, you can't use it for that drive. In circumstances in which you can use it, you're gonna be doing 40MPH in the right lane.
- andsoitis 3y ago
  > If there's no or little traffic, you can't use it for that drive. So it needs other vehicles to orient itself?
  - porphyra 3y ago
    It doesn't, but it can't go faster than 40 mph so it wouldn't be pleasant to go 40 mph while people are zooming past you at 70 mph on the empty autobahn.
- Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
  Jesus, that's REALLY strict. Can we stop pretending that other manufacturers have better self-driving capabilities when they have such SEVERE restrictions? I can use Autopilot at night with light rain at 80 mph. It's actually amazing how well it can read lines.
jdminhbg 3y ago
> in specific situations Very specific situations.
nkingsy 3y ago
only if there's enough traffic to keep it under 40 the whole way, right?
Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
> Mercedes's Drive Pilot (L3), which you can buy in a production car today, is explicitly advertised as allowing drivers to take their attention off the road and do other things in specific situations. So Mercedes is going to take 100% liability if their system causes a crash, right?

dangus 3y ago

> On suitable freeway sections and where there is high traffic density, DRIVE PILOT can offer to take over the dynamic driving task, up to the speed of 40 mph. https://group.mercedes-benz.com/innovation/product-innovation/autonomous-driving/drive-pilot-nevada.html https://group.mercedes-benz.com/innovation/product-innovatio...

idopmstuff 3y ago

> while it drives you from Berlin to Potsdam. This is maybe technically true but in practice not really correct. Some conditions to use it are (per https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manuals/drive-pilot https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manuals/drive-pilot): Clear lane markings on approved freeways Moderate to heavy traffic with speeds under 40 MPH Daytime lighting and clear weather So if it's night or raining or foggy, you can't use it for that drive. If there's no or little traffic, you can't use it for that drive. In circumstances in which you can use it, you're gonna be doing 40MPH in the right lane.

andsoitis 3y ago
> If there's no or little traffic, you can't use it for that drive. So it needs other vehicles to orient itself?
- porphyra 3y ago
  It doesn't, but it can't go faster than 40 mph so it wouldn't be pleasant to go 40 mph while people are zooming past you at 70 mph on the empty autobahn.
Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
Jesus, that's REALLY strict. Can we stop pretending that other manufacturers have better self-driving capabilities when they have such SEVERE restrictions? I can use Autopilot at night with light rain at 80 mph. It's actually amazing how well it can read lines.

jdminhbg 3y ago

> in specific situations Very specific situations.

nkingsy 3y ago

only if there's enough traffic to keep it under 40 the whole way, right?

Sohcahtoa82 3y ago

> Mercedes's Drive Pilot (L3), which you can buy in a production car today, is explicitly advertised as allowing drivers to take their attention off the road and do other things in specific situations. So Mercedes is going to take 100% liability if their system causes a crash, right?