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I've got a couple of questions about this. Maybe they were covered in the paper but I couldn't see the link? Let me know if I missed it. 1. What do they mean b

I've got a couple of questions about this. Maybe they were covered in the paper but I couldn't see the link? Let me know if I missed it. 1. What do they mean by "changes in sperm?" What are they actually measuring here? 2. Is there previous evidence that these changes in sperm are linked to FAS, or are we extrapolating from the known effects of motherly drinking? 3. They say 3-4 beers a couple times a week is enough to notice the changes, but do we know how big that change is and if heavier drinking leads to A) higher incidence of FAS or B) worse outcomes of FAS? Anyway, wish me luck. I'm expecting a baby now since 6 weeks ago after becoming an alcoholic during the Corona period. I "only" drink one to two beers per evening but I'm sure that more than covers the case of "moderate drinking." I experience withdrawl when I go even only one day so I'm sure there's some effect for sure. Right now I'm hoping for the best and hoping the power of good socialisation can trump any hopefully small damage I've already done to my child's brain.

lm28469 3y ago
> Alcohol can affect fertility by altering sperm count, size, shape, and motility. > Animal studies have provided clear evidence that offspring sired by ethanol-exposed males in the absence of maternal ethanol exposure showed more adverse behavioral development11, including increased risk of anxiety- and depression-like behaviors7,10, increased in activity and sensorimotor integration deficits, as well as decreased balance, coordination, and short-term motor learning https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-05611-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-05611-2 https://www.escardio.org/The-ESC/Press-Office/Press-releases/Fathers-to-be-should-avoid-alcohol-six-months-before-conception https://www.escardio.org/The-ESC/Press-Office/Press-releases...
- AlecSchueler 3y ago
  Damn. I was hoping the best on the basis that my own father liked a drink, and knowing that at least my own intelligence level was fine. But "anxiety- and depression-like behaviors, increases in activity and sensorimotor integration deficits, as well as decreased balance, coordination, and short-term motor learning" sadly sounds like a pretty good description of my own life's history. At least if I know this ahead of time I can coach my child with it all in mind and lean harder into self-care solutions for managing anxiety etc. in a way that I might not have done otherwise.
- spott 3y ago
  As far as I can tell they didn’t correct for alcohol consumption of fathers post-conception. All those effects could be the result of “alcoholic” father figures, right? What am I missing here?
  - AlecSchueler 3y ago
    I was thinking the same. The anxiety patterns could be leading the fathers to drink, and those same anxiety patterns could be passed on via socialisation independently of the direct effects on the sperm.
yellow_lead 3y ago
Here is the link https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13566 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13566 Best of luck
- AlecSchueler 3y ago
  Thank you.

lm28469 3y ago

> Alcohol can affect fertility by altering sperm count, size, shape, and motility. > Animal studies have provided clear evidence that offspring sired by ethanol-exposed males in the absence of maternal ethanol exposure showed more adverse behavioral development11, including increased risk of anxiety- and depression-like behaviors7,10, increased in activity and sensorimotor integration deficits, as well as decreased balance, coordination, and short-term motor learning https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-05611-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-05611-2 https://www.escardio.org/The-ESC/Press-Office/Press-releases/Fathers-to-be-should-avoid-alcohol-six-months-before-conception https://www.escardio.org/The-ESC/Press-Office/Press-releases...

AlecSchueler 3y ago
Damn. I was hoping the best on the basis that my own father liked a drink, and knowing that at least my own intelligence level was fine. But "anxiety- and depression-like behaviors, increases in activity and sensorimotor integration deficits, as well as decreased balance, coordination, and short-term motor learning" sadly sounds like a pretty good description of my own life's history. At least if I know this ahead of time I can coach my child with it all in mind and lean harder into self-care solutions for managing anxiety etc. in a way that I might not have done otherwise.
spott 3y ago
As far as I can tell they didn’t correct for alcohol consumption of fathers post-conception. All those effects could be the result of “alcoholic” father figures, right? What am I missing here?
- AlecSchueler 3y ago
  I was thinking the same. The anxiety patterns could be leading the fathers to drink, and those same anxiety patterns could be passed on via socialisation independently of the direct effects on the sperm.

yellow_lead 3y ago

Here is the link https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13566 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13566 Best of luck

AlecSchueler 3y ago
Thank you.