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We'd all like fair, subjective reporting from this region but with one side's track record of killing journalists, not only Al Jazeera's[1] but also Associated

We'd all like fair, subjective reporting from this region but with one side's track record of killing journalists, not only Al Jazeera's[1] but also Associated Press[2], Reuters[3], and many others[4] I guess we'll have to take what we can get. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shireen_Abu_Akleh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shireen_Abu_Akleh [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_al-Jalaa_Building https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_al-Jalaa_Buildi... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_of_Simone_Camilli_and_Ali_Shehda_Abu_Afash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_of_Simone_Camilli_and_A... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issam_Abdallah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issam_Abdallah [4] https://cpj.org/reports/2023/05/deadly-pattern-20-journalists-died-by-israeli-military-fire-in-22-years-no-one-has-been-held-accountable/ https://cpj.org/reports/2023/05/deadly-pattern-20-journalist... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_during_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_dur... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_the_2023_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_...

jonathanstrange 3y ago
On the contrary, nobody should allow Hamas to make things up or rely on unreliable and extremely biased sources like Al Jazeera, and take that "for what you get" without any critical examination because journalists have been killed in a combat zone. That's not how to obtain reliable information. The real problem with political threads like this on HN is that HN has no way of muting individual persons. This is not good for anyone. Normally, I'd just mute your account and go on, that's how I deal with bad faith arguers on Reddit and it works great. Alas, HN doesn't have this possibility, so they really need to avoid flamebait topics like this one.
- wahnfrieden 3y ago
  I will continue to post such material as long as I have moderator support to do so. I think there's more to it than "flamewar"
  - jonathanstrange 3y ago
    I'm sure you will. I somehow doubt you will also post stories about eye-witness accounts of the raping of hostages by Hamas, the ongoing hostage crisis, the killing and burning alive of families by Hamas terrorists, torturing civilians to death in front of their relatives, the shooting of parents in front of their children, or the kidnapping and killing of toddlers. According to recent polls, the vast majority of Palestinians in the West Bank and most of them in Gaza support these actions. Anyway, if I find any illegal terrorist propaganda or calls to genocide in any of those threads, I know where to report it. At least German authorities react rather fast, and, if necessary, block all of HN. The rest of the EU has similar mechanisms.
    - wahnfrieden 3y ago
      lol ok
      - jonathanstrange 3y ago
        A bit childish reply but ok. Have a nice day!

jonathanstrange 3y ago

On the contrary, nobody should allow Hamas to make things up or rely on unreliable and extremely biased sources like Al Jazeera, and take that "for what you get" without any critical examination because journalists have been killed in a combat zone. That's not how to obtain reliable information. The real problem with political threads like this on HN is that HN has no way of muting individual persons. This is not good for anyone. Normally, I'd just mute your account and go on, that's how I deal with bad faith arguers on Reddit and it works great. Alas, HN doesn't have this possibility, so they really need to avoid flamebait topics like this one.

wahnfrieden 3y ago
I will continue to post such material as long as I have moderator support to do so. I think there's more to it than "flamewar"
- jonathanstrange 3y ago
  I'm sure you will. I somehow doubt you will also post stories about eye-witness accounts of the raping of hostages by Hamas, the ongoing hostage crisis, the killing and burning alive of families by Hamas terrorists, torturing civilians to death in front of their relatives, the shooting of parents in front of their children, or the kidnapping and killing of toddlers. According to recent polls, the vast majority of Palestinians in the West Bank and most of them in Gaza support these actions. Anyway, if I find any illegal terrorist propaganda or calls to genocide in any of those threads, I know where to report it. At least German authorities react rather fast, and, if necessary, block all of HN. The rest of the EU has similar mechanisms.
  - wahnfrieden 3y ago
    lol ok
    - jonathanstrange 3y ago
      A bit childish reply but ok. Have a nice day!