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we will have to agree to disagree - perhaps distasteful, but a generation may need to be sacrificed in order to get lasting peace - just like was done in german

by ejb999 3y ago

we will have to agree to disagree - perhaps distasteful, but a generation may need to be sacrificed in order to get lasting peace - just like was done in germany and japan during ww2. Did lots of non-combatants die? without a doubt. Is it sad? also without a doubt. Were all the generations after that allowed to grow up and live in relative peace and prosperity because of that? Yes they were. The reason things keep getting worse for the Palestinian's is because they insist on squandering any aid they get on buying more and more weapons - very little of that makes it to the 'women and children'. Until that cycle is stopped, nothing will change. Hamas is perfectly willing to use their own women and children as human shields - those terrorists need to be killed with extreme prejudice, which will include a lot of collateral damage - until that happens, there will be no peace for anyone.

licebmi__at__ 3y ago
I always considered Gandhi suggestion for the Jews to suicide as a protest against the holocaust quite distasteful, yours seem a lot worse. But perhaps consider that the fact that the median age in Gaza is 18 years old, as an indication that maybe a generation has already being sacrificed. Or maybe, if we are going to abandon any trace of humanity in search of a solution, are you suggesting to sacrifice a generation on the Israeli side?
biorach 3y ago
> just like was done in germany and japan during ww2. The difference is that the USA did not expropriate and colonise the majority of their territory and reduce them to servile status, which is what is happening in the West Bank. Instead it ensured a viable homeland and democracy. Neither of which are happening in the West Bank. The long term trajectory there is towards reduction of Palestinians to second class status, the inverse of what happened in Japan and Germany. > those terrorists need to be killed with extreme prejudice, which will include a lot of collateral damage - until that happens, there will be no peace for anyone. I agree that Hamas are disgusting and should be stopped. Equally, Israeli colonisation needs to be stopped and until that happens, there will be no peace for anyone.

by ejb999 3y ago

licebmi__at__ 3y ago

I always considered Gandhi suggestion for the Jews to suicide as a protest against the holocaust quite distasteful, yours seem a lot worse. But perhaps consider that the fact that the median age in Gaza is 18 years old, as an indication that maybe a generation has already being sacrificed. Or maybe, if we are going to abandon any trace of humanity in search of a solution, are you suggesting to sacrifice a generation on the Israeli side?

biorach 3y ago

> just like was done in germany and japan during ww2. The difference is that the USA did not expropriate and colonise the majority of their territory and reduce them to servile status, which is what is happening in the West Bank. Instead it ensured a viable homeland and democracy. Neither of which are happening in the West Bank. The long term trajectory there is towards reduction of Palestinians to second class status, the inverse of what happened in Japan and Germany. > those terrorists need to be killed with extreme prejudice, which will include a lot of collateral damage - until that happens, there will be no peace for anyone. I agree that Hamas are disgusting and should be stopped. Equally, Israeli colonisation needs to be stopped and until that happens, there will be no peace for anyone.