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I'd argue even waymo is still far away from FSD. Driverless cars on a restricted set of roads with a remote operator monitoring things (and the ability to quick
by cycomanic 3y ago
I'd argue even waymo is still far away from FSD. Driverless cars on a restricted set of roads with a remote operator monitoring things (and the ability to quickly resolve issues), is nowhere close to what I (and the general public I would argue) understands as fully self driving.
- bryanlarsen 3y agoSure, if you set the goalposts in a place that's unachievable we'll never reach them. - even human drivers cannot safely operate in all locations/conditions - all self-driving cars will need a mechanism for cops to talk to a human
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- kelnos 3y agoThe goal is to replace a human driver in every situation where a human driver could or would drive, with an equivalent or (ideally) better safety record. Are you suggesting that Waymo is there? I don't think the evidence would support that. Even if we relax that goal a bit so the self-driving car can disengage and refuse to drive in, say, the most difficult 20% of situations, I don't think we can say Waymo is there, either.
- mannykannot 3y agoYou just moved the goalposts in order to set up a straw-man argument! One can quite reasonably point out that level 5 autonomy has not yet been achieved without moving the level 5 goalposts.
- boc 3y agoIDK, the Waymo cars that drive around SF meet my definition of full self driving. They handle a ton of weird traffic patterns, pedestrians, pickup zones, and very dense urban environments much better than I think you realize. Unless you live here, you probably aren't aware of their capabilities.