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I'm fine if DRM cuts both ways. Manufacturer is free to try locking things down as long as that's disclosed, I'm free to tamper with something I own. They own t
by hot_gril 3y ago
I'm fine if DRM cuts both ways. Manufacturer is free to try locking things down as long as that's disclosed, I'm free to tamper with something I own. They own the trains.
- pavel_lishin 3y agoDRM is not merely a technological issue; it's a legal one as well.
- hot_gril 3y agoYes, by "free to" I mean it's legal to.
- wizzwizz4 3y agoIt's only DRM if it's from the Article 11 region of the WIPO Copyright Treaty; otherwise, it's just sparkling obfuscation. > Contracting Parties shall provide adequate legal protection and effective legal remedies against the circumvention of effective technological measures that are used by authors in connection with the exercise of their rights under this Treaty or the Berne Convention and that restrict acts, in respect of their works, which are not authorized by the authors concerned or permitted by law. (DRM's a silly name, anyway; it should be called "technological measures" or "technological protection measures" or something.)
- hot_gril 3y agoI think it's meant as a derogatory term cause people hate DRM. Like, I don't feel entitled to pirate movies, but plenty of times DRM has gotten in the way of legally watching movies I paid for.
- wizzwizz4 3y agoDigital Restrictions Management is a backronym popularised by the EFF, but DRM is the actual legal term used in the US, and doesn't necessarily carry a derogatory meaning.
- chankstein38 3y agoI don't know, I've never happily acknowledged the existence of DRM. I'm from the US and, as far as I can tell, I and people in my periphery see it as a negative and use it as basically "This f-ing DRM is always preventing me from watching my movies in 4K even though I paid for 4K" kinds of situations
- hot_gril 3y agoI used to never curse. Apple TV HDCP DRM was the first time.
- rnk 3y agoI disagree, DRM actually is seen as an extremely negative thing. Perhaps people who work to create DRM don't think it's a negative but saying someone's work is DRM is actually a pejorative statement.
- hot_gril 3y agotaking my BMW to the shop to do a DRM delete
- grishka 3y agoIn this particular case though, railway companies are usually part of the government which enacts and enforces those laws.
- rockskon 3y agoOne that challenges traditional notions of property rights when attempted to be enforced in this manner. They might win in the short term but I can't imagine that would serve the train company well in the long term - lawmakers (who are typically octogenarians) often don't understand how software restrictions limit use of equipment traditionally enjoyed under property rights until they're interfered with. Like a train being geofenced.
- Gigachad 3y agoI’m not actually ok with companies using DRM to brick public infrastructure. The manufacturer should be put out of business.
- e2le 3y agoTrains are critical infrastructure. Intentionally introducing vulnerabilities deserves the corporate death penalty and prison time for those involved. Best make an example out of them, lest the others get ideas.
- zardo 3y agoIf they really wanted to, they could certainly pursue criminal charges for sabotaging rail infrastructure. Possibly even capital charges.