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> My understanding is that before this was made public Apple was under a gag order and could not talk about this. In a situation like that how would Apple be ab
by Volundr 3y ago
> My understanding is that before this was made public Apple was under a gag order and could not talk about this. In a situation like that how would Apple be able to bring lawyers into the case to fight it?
Apple has in-house lawyers. Who do you think is advising them on this gag order? They don't need to bring anyone else in to fight it. They already have the resources.
- Volundr 3y agoAlso worth noting even if this wasn't true, you can talk to a lawyer about an NSL: https://www.eff.org/issues/national-security-letters/faq#24 https://www.eff.org/issues/national-security-letters/faq#24
- nerdjon 3y agook, so they can talk to those lawyers. Maybe those lawyers concluded that Apple had no choice and could not fight this. You're saying they could fight this, I am saying they can't. Frankly neither of us have evidence either way since until a few days ago this was under a gag order. But considering they complied, I am more inclined to believe they had to and had no choice. Both Apple and Google complied with this order for some reason, knowing that when it comes out it will be criticized. To me the only logical conclusion is that they had no choice but comply and if they consulted with their lawyers they likely came to the same conclusion.
- Volundr 3y agoSo what has changed that they can require a judges order now and couldn't before? Why was Google apparently able to require a judges order before but Apple couldn't?