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So how should Israel respond in you opinion?

by nec4b 3y ago

ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
The first step would be to stop indiscriminately killing civilians (or discriminately killing civilians, whatever, just stop). The next step is up to them to figure out, but "commit war crimes" isn't an acceptable answer. Those pointing out the war crimes don't have to pitch an alternative to war crimes and hope the idea is accepted or whatever. Just stop killing civilians, then reassess. Just to clarify exactly where I sit morally: I do not find it acceptable to kill 10 civilians in retaliation for 1 civilian being killed, nor do I find it acceptable that such 10x revenge killing of civilians is allegedly done in the name of saving civilians. Such statements tell me that the ones making them, don't view Palestinians as civilians to be saved. Whereas I don't believe 1 Palestinian civilian life is any more or less important than 1 Israeli civilian life.
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- nec4b 3y ago
  Your answer is for them to sit back and allow Hamas to fire rockets on them and not engage back?
  - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
    We're discussing how to minimize the civilian casualties happening as we speak, right? Not just the civilian casualties on /one/ side of the wall, /right/?
    - nec4b 3y ago
      It's a simply question. What should Israel do when attacked?
      - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
        That question is as "simple" as asking what Palestinian civilians should do when attacked. These are actually simple questions (yes or no format): > We're discussing how to minimize the civilian casualties happening as we speak, right? > Not just the civilian casualties on /one/ side of the wall, /right/? If your goal isn't that, you should speak up, because that is currently the goal of most of everyone else. Security considerations and guarantees for Palestine and Israel from each other don't come until after that goal is achieved. I'm going to write that again for emphasis, since you've tried to change the topic to it twice now: --> Security considerations and guarantees for Palestine and Israel from each other don't come until after that goal is achieved. <--- As it is, you seem a bit distracted from the goal of minimizing the ongoing civilian casualties happening as we speak. Focus. We can discuss your question after, and only after, the civilian deaths stop racking up.
        nec4b 3y ago
        If Israel stops, Hamas will continue with its terrorist actions. Again what should Israel do?
        3y ago

So how should Israel respond in you opinion?

by nec4b 3y ago

So how should Israel respond in you opinion?

The first step would be to stop indiscriminately killing civilians (or discriminately killing civilians, whatever, just stop). The next step is up to them to figure out, but "commit war crimes" isn't an acceptable answer. Those pointing out the war crimes don't have to pitch an alternative to war crimes and hope the idea is accepted or whatever. Just stop killing civilians, then reassess. Just to clarify exactly where I sit morally: I do not find it acceptable to kill 10 civilians in retaliation for 1 civilian being killed, nor do I find it acceptable that such 10x revenge killing of civilians is allegedly done in the name of saving civilians. Such statements tell me that the ones making them, don't view Palestinians as civilians to be saved. Whereas I don't believe 1 Palestinian civilian life is any more or less important than 1 Israeli civilian life.

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nec4b 3y ago
Your answer is for them to sit back and allow Hamas to fire rockets on them and not engage back?
- ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
  We're discussing how to minimize the civilian casualties happening as we speak, right? Not just the civilian casualties on /one/ side of the wall, /right/?
  - nec4b 3y ago
    It's a simply question. What should Israel do when attacked?
    - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
      That question is as "simple" as asking what Palestinian civilians should do when attacked. These are actually simple questions (yes or no format): > We're discussing how to minimize the civilian casualties happening as we speak, right? > Not just the civilian casualties on /one/ side of the wall, /right/? If your goal isn't that, you should speak up, because that is currently the goal of most of everyone else. Security considerations and guarantees for Palestine and Israel from each other don't come until after that goal is achieved. I'm going to write that again for emphasis, since you've tried to change the topic to it twice now: --> Security considerations and guarantees for Palestine and Israel from each other don't come until after that goal is achieved. <--- As it is, you seem a bit distracted from the goal of minimizing the ongoing civilian casualties happening as we speak. Focus. We can discuss your question after, and only after, the civilian deaths stop racking up.
      - nec4b 3y ago
        If Israel stops, Hamas will continue with its terrorist actions. Again what should Israel do?
        3y ago