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For it to be considered as such I think that it would need to be easily recognised by a relatively large portion of the world compared to other shows. Anecdotal
by subtra3t 3y ago
For it to be considered as such I think that it would need to be easily recognised by a relatively large portion of the world compared to other shows. Anecdotal but I have only 1 friend who watched B99, but almost all of my friends would be able to recognise actors/scenes from Breaking Bad even if they haven't watched the show itself. Breaking Bad is referenced a lot in pop culture, much more so than B99 (an example I can think of would be the rehashing of the sentence "This is the moment when [Walter White] became [Heisenberg]").
The same can be said of The Office. People have been exposed to it enough that they can recognize a scene from it based on the production style even if they have never watched the show. I do not think Brooklynn 99 is at that stage yet. Perhaps it will reach it in the future.
This has nothing to do with the merits of B99 though. I personally think it is a great show. It has good characters, fantastic actors, decent writing and an alright overarching plot. But I would not call it a cultural artifact (yet).
- arp242 3y agoYeah, that's not how culture works, or ever worked. You don't need to be omni-dominant in a "large portion of the world". Most works of culture are seen, read, or heard by a relatively small part of the world, and they all contribute strands to a larger tapestry. Some strands are wider ("most influential") and/or longer ("remembered longer") than others, but every strand is part of culture. If you were to pick up a guitar and started singing at the local pub then that's culture too. No, it's not the reach of the Rolling Stones or whatnot, but that doesn't mean it's not culture.
- subtra3t 3y agoSo by your definition is this comment thread itself a cultural artifact. Your definition of the phrase cultural artifact is lenient enough to allow for that. After all, this thread was seen by a relatively small part of the world and it contributes to the "larger tapestry" (ie the hacker news post).
- FartyMcFarter 3y agoWell, yes.
- pohl 3y agoBy George I think you’ve got it.