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>The 'victim' here clearly knows they are taking advantage of a situation. Why do you think this?

boringg 3y ago
Because they are using 237 Tb in an "unlimited" service from Google. And based on the mechanism they are using to pay for it (enterprise account with one seat) - they knew they had found a loop hole in google policy. (r/datahoarders) Seriously I'm all on board with giving Google the much grief that they deserve - but I also would expect someone claiming victim here to have more of a claim than abusing a "unlimited" account and getting mad about it. Yes 100% Google should be holding onto their data or offering them the ability to pay for the larger data tier - that part is BS. Get mad at the FBI for raiding you, get mad that you didn't think of another cloud service to store with or pay for an appropriate service (0.07$/TB [my rough calc] is dirt cheap to the point of suspect). I also have to assume that the individual, former anonymous hacker has some wherewithal to be suspect of 'unlimited' packages from large corporations. There's gotta be more to this story -- it smells off.
- Nicksil 3y ago
  > 237 Tb in an unlimited service from Google So, not excessive. 237 TB does not exceed unlimited. What am I missing here? >they knew they had found a loop hole in google policy. What, exactly, is this loop hole?
- cldellow 3y ago
  You talk about loopholes three times in this comment. > Because they are using 237 Tb in an unlimited service from Google Google's a trillion dollar company. A popular saying amongst Googlers is "I don't know how to count that low". They're used to big numbers. I work at a much smaller company. We are not a trillion dollar company. Even we, when offering an unlimited service, ask ourselves: "What happens if someone takes us up on this offer?" It's not a loophole, it's what he paid for. It's fine to stop offering an unlimited service. We did! My only beef with Google's conduct here is the 7 days of notice prior to deletion. I've followed Mike Masnick's reporting in other cases. He seems like an even-handed, fair journalist. I trust that he's not hiding the ball, nor letting the other journalist mislead him about the situation.
  - boringg 3y ago
    You should question the story a bit more. You think Google only gave 7 days? That seems super suss.
    - cldellow 3y ago
      Yes, why wouldn't I think that? As I said, I trust Mike Masnick. I also have past professional experience that leads me to believe Google does what's easiest for Google, not what's best for their customers. In one case, Google suspended a Google Certified Publishing Partner's GAM account for several hours with no notice. The partner had several years of history with Google, did $100M/year of revenue with them, and had an assigned Google rep who did weekly calls with them. Google reactivated the account, but only after significant disruption to the partner. I agree that it's good to be a critical consumer of news, but eh, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably Google being blissfully ignorant of the impact they have on their users.

Because they are using 237 Tb in an "unlimited" service from Google. And based on the mechanism they are using to pay for it (enterprise account with one seat) - they knew they had found a loop hole in google policy. (r/datahoarders) Seriously I'm all on board with giving Google the much grief that they deserve - but I also would expect someone claiming victim here to have more of a claim than abusing a "unlimited" account and getting mad about it. Yes 100% Google should be holding onto their data or offering them the ability to pay for the larger data tier - that part is BS. Get mad at the FBI for raiding you, get mad that you didn't think of another cloud service to store with or pay for an appropriate service (0.07$/TB [my rough calc] is dirt cheap to the point of suspect). I also have to assume that the individual, former anonymous hacker has some wherewithal to be suspect of 'unlimited' packages from large corporations. There's gotta be more to this story -- it smells off.

Nicksil 3y ago
> 237 Tb in an unlimited service from Google So, not excessive. 237 TB does not exceed unlimited. What am I missing here? >they knew they had found a loop hole in google policy. What, exactly, is this loop hole?
cldellow 3y ago
You talk about loopholes three times in this comment. > Because they are using 237 Tb in an unlimited service from Google Google's a trillion dollar company. A popular saying amongst Googlers is "I don't know how to count that low". They're used to big numbers. I work at a much smaller company. We are not a trillion dollar company. Even we, when offering an unlimited service, ask ourselves: "What happens if someone takes us up on this offer?" It's not a loophole, it's what he paid for. It's fine to stop offering an unlimited service. We did! My only beef with Google's conduct here is the 7 days of notice prior to deletion. I've followed Mike Masnick's reporting in other cases. He seems like an even-handed, fair journalist. I trust that he's not hiding the ball, nor letting the other journalist mislead him about the situation.
- boringg 3y ago
  You should question the story a bit more. You think Google only gave 7 days? That seems super suss.
  - cldellow 3y ago
    Yes, why wouldn't I think that? As I said, I trust Mike Masnick. I also have past professional experience that leads me to believe Google does what's easiest for Google, not what's best for their customers. In one case, Google suspended a Google Certified Publishing Partner's GAM account for several hours with no notice. The partner had several years of history with Google, did $100M/year of revenue with them, and had an assigned Google rep who did weekly calls with them. Google reactivated the account, but only after significant disruption to the partner. I agree that it's good to be a critical consumer of news, but eh, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably Google being blissfully ignorant of the impact they have on their users.