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> My car has sensors to detect when a passenger isn't wearing a seat belt and to blast an ear-hurting alarm directly at the driver. It's so loud that it's actua

by dangus 3y ago

> My car has sensors to detect when a passenger isn't wearing a seat belt and to blast an ear-hurting alarm directly at the driver. It's so loud that it's actually a safety issue in itself because it's hard to focus on driving when there is a blaring alarm in your face. You aren’t supposed to be driving until all occupants in your vehicle have buckled their seatbelts. That’s why the alarm is loud and annoying, because obviously you can’t be trusted to follow basic motor vehicle laws. You’re not supposed to be focused on driving before everyone is buckled in.

MarkusWandel 3y ago
My car's gone the opposite way. When trying to find it in the parking lot, with the old one, you just pushed "lock" on the keyfob twice and listened for the horn honk. The new one makes a nice, elegant but not very loud "beep" sound. Useless for this purpose. They also got the seat belt warning right. At startup it displays a map of the seats, green if occupied and buckled, red if not, grey if unoccupied. Good for checking that the kids did up their seat belts in the back, without being annoying. I'm guessing it does have a nag chime, but the kids have behaved so far... I do have to say, the only complaint about the gimcrackery in mine (low-ish trim level 2023 Honda Civic) is that the menu UI is a bit clunky. But nothing gets in your way once adjusted properly and the automations (e.g. you can't manually time the windshield washer squirt any more - it squirts at the optimum angle of the wipers) work pretty well.
- badpun 3y ago
  > My car's gone the opposite way. When trying to find it in the parking lot, with the old one, you just pushed "lock" on the keyfob twice and listened for the horn honk. The new one makes a nice, elegant but not very loud "beep" sound. Useless for this purpose. Good for everyone around though, because you're not polluting the soundscape with a completely unncessary honk. Where I live, honking within cities is allowed only in emergency or dangerous situations. Not that anyone follows that law though.
  - MarkusWandel 3y ago
    The car also has the modern low beams, with a very sharp dividing line between "light" and "no light". That's one feature I wish "everyone around" had...
earthling8118 3y ago
Did you read the rest of the post? A backpack shouldn't require a seat belt to drive. If there is going to be a sensor and response like this it should be done correctly.
- dangus 3y ago
  Yep! That person also lets their kids change seats while the car is in motion and complains about the warning beep. Arguably, if your backpack is heavy enough to set off the sensor, it's probably a projectile hazard in itself and probably shouldn't be on the seat and instead in a foot well or in the cargo area.
freedomben 3y ago
Besides as the sibling pointed out the backpack, what do you do when you're driving 80 on the highway and a kid unbuckles? Do you slam on your breaks, cruise to the shoulder, and sit in a dangerous place on the highway while having an argument with a 4-year old? If the goal is to keep everybody safe (including the kid), that would be terrible, terrible advice.

by dangus 3y ago

MarkusWandel 3y ago

My car's gone the opposite way. When trying to find it in the parking lot, with the old one, you just pushed "lock" on the keyfob twice and listened for the horn honk. The new one makes a nice, elegant but not very loud "beep" sound. Useless for this purpose. They also got the seat belt warning right. At startup it displays a map of the seats, green if occupied and buckled, red if not, grey if unoccupied. Good for checking that the kids did up their seat belts in the back, without being annoying. I'm guessing it does have a nag chime, but the kids have behaved so far... I do have to say, the only complaint about the gimcrackery in mine (low-ish trim level 2023 Honda Civic) is that the menu UI is a bit clunky. But nothing gets in your way once adjusted properly and the automations (e.g. you can't manually time the windshield washer squirt any more - it squirts at the optimum angle of the wipers) work pretty well.

badpun 3y ago
> My car's gone the opposite way. When trying to find it in the parking lot, with the old one, you just pushed "lock" on the keyfob twice and listened for the horn honk. The new one makes a nice, elegant but not very loud "beep" sound. Useless for this purpose. Good for everyone around though, because you're not polluting the soundscape with a completely unncessary honk. Where I live, honking within cities is allowed only in emergency or dangerous situations. Not that anyone follows that law though.
- MarkusWandel 3y ago
  The car also has the modern low beams, with a very sharp dividing line between "light" and "no light". That's one feature I wish "everyone around" had...

earthling8118 3y ago

Did you read the rest of the post? A backpack shouldn't require a seat belt to drive. If there is going to be a sensor and response like this it should be done correctly.

dangus 3y ago
Yep! That person also lets their kids change seats while the car is in motion and complains about the warning beep. Arguably, if your backpack is heavy enough to set off the sensor, it's probably a projectile hazard in itself and probably shouldn't be on the seat and instead in a foot well or in the cargo area.

freedomben 3y ago

Besides as the sibling pointed out the backpack, what do you do when you're driving 80 on the highway and a kid unbuckles? Do you slam on your breaks, cruise to the shoulder, and sit in a dangerous place on the highway while having an argument with a 4-year old? If the goal is to keep everybody safe (including the kid), that would be terrible, terrible advice.