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Compared to what. Turmeric and garlic both have antibacterial properties and could thus affect the microbiome.

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saiya-jin 3y ago
Garlic nor turmeric isn't basically wiping your guts clean, I know form my own experiences since I come from the culture where during harsh winters copious amounts of raw garlic is consumed to prevent getting sick (doesn't work that well once you are properly sick but prevention works wonderfully... but the smell for others ain't that great TBH). You can have very frequent consumption of those 2 and gut being overall in very good shape. Maybe our bodies can handle those and repopulate bowels from cervix for example. I know when I took a course of some general antibiotics, my bowels and everything related changes, for the worse, for some time. Nothing like that even with copious amounts of those 2.
- ta988 3y ago
  This is a kind of experiment with no control. You have no idea how sick you would have been without it. I'm not taking garlic but some years I get sick, some others not. Self-experiments are usually extremely poor predictors of efficacy unfortunately.
Jedd 3y ago
> Compared to what. I guess that was a question. Reading TFA, compared to not using glyphosate. Garlic, f.e., does not deleteriously deplete the soil's microbiome. After being cooked it provides a lovely aroma / flavour (compare and contrast glyphosate).
- RcouF1uZ4gsC 3y ago
  The original article is talking about the human microbiome. Garlic and turmeric would affect that as well.
K0balt 3y ago
Turmeric and garlic primarily destroy microbiota that are widely considered pathogenic in excess in the human microbiome. Most spices have their roots in bioactive compounds that have been (or evolved to be) beneficial to humans when consumed, either as anti parasitical, or antagonists against harmful bacterial overrun such as h. Pylori, yeasts, and others. We probably evolved to find those compounds tasty, and maybe reinforced their tastiness through cultivation. Glyphosates have no such history with humans, but have proven useful to reduce the labor cost of agriculture.
- ta988 3y ago
  No in vitro they are pretty much killing most of what they touch.
  - bumby 3y ago
    I think clinical outcomes are what we’re most interested in here.

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Garlic nor turmeric isn't basically wiping your guts clean, I know form my own experiences since I come from the culture where during harsh winters copious amounts of raw garlic is consumed to prevent getting sick (doesn't work that well once you are properly sick but prevention works wonderfully... but the smell for others ain't that great TBH). You can have very frequent consumption of those 2 and gut being overall in very good shape. Maybe our bodies can handle those and repopulate bowels from cervix for example. I know when I took a course of some general antibiotics, my bowels and everything related changes, for the worse, for some time. Nothing like that even with copious amounts of those 2.

ta988 3y ago
This is a kind of experiment with no control. You have no idea how sick you would have been without it. I'm not taking garlic but some years I get sick, some others not. Self-experiments are usually extremely poor predictors of efficacy unfortunately.

Jedd 3y ago

> Compared to what. I guess that was a question. Reading TFA, compared to not using glyphosate. Garlic, f.e., does not deleteriously deplete the soil's microbiome. After being cooked it provides a lovely aroma / flavour (compare and contrast glyphosate).

RcouF1uZ4gsC 3y ago
The original article is talking about the human microbiome. Garlic and turmeric would affect that as well.

K0balt 3y ago

Turmeric and garlic primarily destroy microbiota that are widely considered pathogenic in excess in the human microbiome. Most spices have their roots in bioactive compounds that have been (or evolved to be) beneficial to humans when consumed, either as anti parasitical, or antagonists against harmful bacterial overrun such as h. Pylori, yeasts, and others. We probably evolved to find those compounds tasty, and maybe reinforced their tastiness through cultivation. Glyphosates have no such history with humans, but have proven useful to reduce the labor cost of agriculture.

ta988 3y ago
No in vitro they are pretty much killing most of what they touch.
- bumby 3y ago
  I think clinical outcomes are what we’re most interested in here.