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I quite enjoy Arc on macOS. The UI "just clicks" for me: - named persistent spaces for groups of tabs, some can be pinned, some can be ephemeral - spaces can

I quite enjoy Arc on macOS. The UI "just clicks" for me: - named persistent spaces for groups of tabs, some can be pinned, some can be ephemeral - spaces can have different profiles, so switching to personal stuff in a work context is no different than switching to any other space - side-by-side tabs within spaces give an iPad-like split screen experience in the browser. I know the OS is meant to do this, but honestly window management in macOS is totally fucked and achieving the same thing is really hard. Overall it's made navigating the web more effortless, and I hope other browsers copy. Safari tried with Tab Groups, but it's a pale imitation and when I go back it's vertical tabs that I miss most.

Obscurity4340 3y ago
What do you think about Orion Browser for Apple stuffs?
- moneywoes 3y ago
  curious about this. apparently is supports extensions on ios?
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    (Orion) Seems to support uBlock Origin plugin. Thatms all I really need+want
- TheFuzzball 3y ago
  I gave it a serious go, and I use Kagi search (Orion is made by Kagi). I'll be honest - I didn't like it. It felt more like Safari than Arc, but fell short of both. I had a particular problem with 1Password, but also the UI just felt clunky. I haven't tried it for several months though, it might be better now. There's also the paid SigmaOS browser, which is is the same vein, and I didn't like that either - it makes different decisions than Arc, IIRC the vertical tab is persistent, kinda like slide over multitasking on iPadOS. I have an ultrawide display and sometimes I'd like to just add a bunch of vertical tabs (e.g. if I'm browsing house listings and want them side-by-side). It'd be cool if I could get a vertically scrolling view of individual tabs, but the UX on that would be difficult to get right. Oh, another thing Arc is good at is trackpad support - I can just two-finger scrolling between spaces and it's a really nice experience. I will probably move away from Arc eventually, since it's VC funded and pretty much doomed, but I guess if they have a paid model like Kagi I might be tempted. I also hate fragmentation between devices. Pretty much all my devices are Apple - MBP, multiple iPads, iPhone, etc. The value proposition of native tab syncing is very high, and whilst Arc has a companion app I don't like that experience.
  - kiliankoe 3y ago
    > whilst Arc has a companion app I don't like that experience. They also just announced that they submitted a mobile version of their browser (at least that's how I read it) to the iOS App Store. It's not to be published until early next year, but I'm also very much looking forward to a better mobile app, not just the companion, although the share extension is downright fantastic.

Obscurity4340 3y ago

What do you think about Orion Browser for Apple stuffs?

moneywoes 3y ago
curious about this. apparently is supports extensions on ios?
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  (Orion) Seems to support uBlock Origin plugin. Thatms all I really need+want
TheFuzzball 3y ago
I gave it a serious go, and I use Kagi search (Orion is made by Kagi). I'll be honest - I didn't like it. It felt more like Safari than Arc, but fell short of both. I had a particular problem with 1Password, but also the UI just felt clunky. I haven't tried it for several months though, it might be better now. There's also the paid SigmaOS browser, which is is the same vein, and I didn't like that either - it makes different decisions than Arc, IIRC the vertical tab is persistent, kinda like slide over multitasking on iPadOS. I have an ultrawide display and sometimes I'd like to just add a bunch of vertical tabs (e.g. if I'm browsing house listings and want them side-by-side). It'd be cool if I could get a vertically scrolling view of individual tabs, but the UX on that would be difficult to get right. Oh, another thing Arc is good at is trackpad support - I can just two-finger scrolling between spaces and it's a really nice experience. I will probably move away from Arc eventually, since it's VC funded and pretty much doomed, but I guess if they have a paid model like Kagi I might be tempted. I also hate fragmentation between devices. Pretty much all my devices are Apple - MBP, multiple iPads, iPhone, etc. The value proposition of native tab syncing is very high, and whilst Arc has a companion app I don't like that experience.
- kiliankoe 3y ago
  > whilst Arc has a companion app I don't like that experience. They also just announced that they submitted a mobile version of their browser (at least that's how I read it) to the iOS App Store. It's not to be published until early next year, but I'm also very much looking forward to a better mobile app, not just the companion, although the share extension is downright fantastic.