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> I’m guessing it works better on some Californian roads that have been carefully hand-tuned by Tesla so they can show the Boss an illusion of progress. It has

> I’m guessing it works better on some Californian roads that have been carefully hand-tuned by Tesla so they can show the Boss an illusion of progress. It has nothing to do with “the boss”. It’s just basic bias of where the engineers are and where testing happens.

meibo 3y ago
Do you work at Tesla? Or any big company? I definitely make sure that my work demos well for my higher ups, especially those that are known to be unpredictable and moody :)
- kortilla 3y ago
  Not at Tesla and I agree that happens. My point is that isn’t what drives this particular issue. All of the other major players (waymo, cruise) suffer the same biases without a moody billionaire at the helm.
pavlov 3y ago
> ‘It has nothing to do with “the boss”‘ All the stories about Twitter/X suggest that absolutely everything revolves around what the boss wants on a given day. That’s autocratic micromanagement, and its downside is that the boss ultimately has a limited attention span and employees learn how to distract him with shiny demos that show a glimpse of the impossible thing he demanded they ship.
- kortilla 3y ago
  Nope, cruise and Waymo suffer the exact same biases. They are just savvy enough to not pretend they can operate outside of their focus/training markets.
ryanklee 3y ago
It reflects Musk's own bias. If he actually gave a shit about competence and quality, Teslas would be more functional outside California. But he doesn't and won't, so until he crawls into a hole somewhere and disappears, Teslas will continue to be over hyped garbage.
- kortilla 3y ago
  Cruise and Waymo suffer the same issues and don’t have Musk at the top. The only difference is they don’t try to operate there. A valid criticism would be that they shouldn’t operate out of the envs they are optimized for, but that has nothing to do with engineers pleasing the boss. >Teslas will continue to be over hyped garbage. Why do you suppose people keep buying them so much and seem to like them? Is it possible you just don’t like Elon Musk and are projecting that onto the car?
  - JoeAltmaier 3y ago
    As that comment said, because they live in the bubble. It's possible to dislike egotistical narcissists, and dislike their product at the same time. Psychobabble is a poor counter-argument. The touch-panel that distracts from driver attention; the demonstrably defective auto-drive; the cold-weather poor performance are real things.

meibo 3y ago

Do you work at Tesla? Or any big company? I definitely make sure that my work demos well for my higher ups, especially those that are known to be unpredictable and moody :)

kortilla 3y ago
Not at Tesla and I agree that happens. My point is that isn’t what drives this particular issue. All of the other major players (waymo, cruise) suffer the same biases without a moody billionaire at the helm.

pavlov 3y ago

> ‘It has nothing to do with “the boss”‘ All the stories about Twitter/X suggest that absolutely everything revolves around what the boss wants on a given day. That’s autocratic micromanagement, and its downside is that the boss ultimately has a limited attention span and employees learn how to distract him with shiny demos that show a glimpse of the impossible thing he demanded they ship.

kortilla 3y ago
Nope, cruise and Waymo suffer the exact same biases. They are just savvy enough to not pretend they can operate outside of their focus/training markets.

ryanklee 3y ago

It reflects Musk's own bias. If he actually gave a shit about competence and quality, Teslas would be more functional outside California. But he doesn't and won't, so until he crawls into a hole somewhere and disappears, Teslas will continue to be over hyped garbage.

kortilla 3y ago
Cruise and Waymo suffer the same issues and don’t have Musk at the top. The only difference is they don’t try to operate there. A valid criticism would be that they shouldn’t operate out of the envs they are optimized for, but that has nothing to do with engineers pleasing the boss. >Teslas will continue to be over hyped garbage. Why do you suppose people keep buying them so much and seem to like them? Is it possible you just don’t like Elon Musk and are projecting that onto the car?
- JoeAltmaier 3y ago
  As that comment said, because they live in the bubble. It's possible to dislike egotistical narcissists, and dislike their product at the same time. Psychobabble is a poor counter-argument. The touch-panel that distracts from driver attention; the demonstrably defective auto-drive; the cold-weather poor performance are real things.