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It’s easy to be snarky about the BS promises, but the important thing is that progress is being made, however incrementally it comes.

madeofpalk 3y ago
What’s snarky about pointing out an execs failed promises/lies?
baz00 3y ago
Is it though? I mean they replaced the computers, all the sensors and the entire strategy at least 2 times each and haven't managed to deliver anything viable. Edit: and another thread just popped up on HN with this https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-13/tesla-autopilot-recall-2-million-cars-need-software-fix https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-13/tesla-aut...
- kbos87 3y ago
  Haven’t managed to deliver anything viable? There are millions of miles of FSD driving being logged every month. I use it all the time and it’s pretty damned good today. Recalls for Tesla just amount to OTA updates that regulators have asked for and they’ve agreed to implement.
cinntaile 3y ago
I don't know about you but I don't like being lied to.
dtx1 3y ago
Unless of course you are selling cars with a Full Self Driving Package for $12k that promises "Your car will be able to drive itself almost anywhere with minimal driver intervention and will continuously improve All functionality of Basic Autopilot and Enhanced Autopilot Autosteer on city streets Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control" In which case it's not a BS promise but fraud.
bergen 3y ago
But is it though?
matsemann 3y ago
I think those paying thousands of dollars many years ago don't view it that way. My guess is they don't care about years of incremental steps, when they purchased something promised much earlier.
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trabant00 3y ago
Flapping wing aircraft where being perfected for a long time before being abandoned, so not every progress actually leads to a result. Selling hopes as a "sure thing in 2 years" I think justifies snarky responses at least.

madeofpalk 3y ago

What’s snarky about pointing out an execs failed promises/lies?

baz00 3y ago

Is it though? I mean they replaced the computers, all the sensors and the entire strategy at least 2 times each and haven't managed to deliver anything viable. Edit: and another thread just popped up on HN with this https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-13/tesla-autopilot-recall-2-million-cars-need-software-fix https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-13/tesla-aut...

kbos87 3y ago
Haven’t managed to deliver anything viable? There are millions of miles of FSD driving being logged every month. I use it all the time and it’s pretty damned good today. Recalls for Tesla just amount to OTA updates that regulators have asked for and they’ve agreed to implement.

cinntaile 3y ago

I don't know about you but I don't like being lied to.

dtx1 3y ago

Unless of course you are selling cars with a Full Self Driving Package for $12k that promises "Your car will be able to drive itself almost anywhere with minimal driver intervention and will continuously improve All functionality of Basic Autopilot and Enhanced Autopilot Autosteer on city streets Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control" In which case it's not a BS promise but fraud.

bergen 3y ago

But is it though?

matsemann 3y ago

I think those paying thousands of dollars many years ago don't view it that way. My guess is they don't care about years of incremental steps, when they purchased something promised much earlier.

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trabant00 3y ago

Flapping wing aircraft where being perfected for a long time before being abandoned, so not every progress actually leads to a result. Selling hopes as a "sure thing in 2 years" I think justifies snarky responses at least.