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As an observation point - I drive a company car (a BMW) and will be looking for a new car next year. I would not even considers Volvo until they support wireles

As an observation point - I drive a company car (a BMW) and will be looking for a new car next year. I would not even considers Volvo until they support wireless CarPlay. GM must very much believe in appeal of their car to piss off android and iOS users simultaneously.

gambiting 3y ago
Tbf, I don't know why people get hung up on this, I see this on Volvo forums all the time as well - you can literally get a £50 adapter, leave it plugged in inside your armrest and voila, you have wireless carplay. It literally "just works". Should the car already come with it installed? Yes. Is it a big deal to rectify? No.
- lycopodiopsida 3y ago
  I am not buying a 60k EUR worth new car to fiddle with adapters. It is almost 2024, wireless carplay is a figured out thing since years. If they cannot solve it, they will not get my money, it is as simple as that. If anything, customers should punish manufacturers more for such bullsh*t, not less. Because current behavior let them believe they can get away with anything, thus this thread.
  - gambiting 3y ago
    >>I am not buying a 60k EUR worth new car to fiddle with adapters. I mean, that's absolutely fair - I'm just saying that this is such a trivial issue to fix that it's not even worth worrying about(IMHO).
    - lycopodiopsida 3y ago
      I think it is exactly the other way around. My brother was long time working for a big car manufacturer, and citing him "it is quite an achievement these days to make a car which drives genuinely bad". And it is true, especially given the move to EV and that with an increasing age my desire to drive a car past 160 km/h and in sports mode is basically 0. So, where a car still can collect bonus points is infotainment and interior in general. If you offer some touchscreen-blandness, you have to go down with the price significantly, because I see where money was spared. I use the built-in wireless CarPlay daily, so I expect it to work without occupying myself with fixing Volvo's incompetence.
- RockRobotRock 3y ago
  >you can literally get a £50 adapter, leave it plugged in inside your armrest and voila, you have wireless carplay. It literally "just works". I'm thankful for whichever Chinese engineers reversed the protocol for CarPlay to make this work. But my experience with these adapters is they are more fiddly than you're describing.
  - gambiting 3y ago
    I mean I have one for wireless android auto and it does just work, it's plugged in, I never have to think about it or worry about it, it just pops up on my screen as if it was built into the car. Maybe the CarPlay ones are more fiddly, I'm not sure.
    - RockRobotRock 3y ago
      When I said CarPlay I meant that my particular adapter had reverse engineered the CarPlay protocol to communicate with the car over USB. It can do wireless android auto as well.
  - NordSteve 3y ago
    My aftermarket Carplay adapter works 100% of the time. Need to make sure both the car and phone Bluetooth aren't paired, then works great.
- nickthegreek 3y ago
  Didn't know these adapters were a thing! Just went to amazon and snagged one for $25.
- thrixton 3y ago
  They don’t all just work, I tried the most popular one (CarLinkIt) and it didn’t work with mine or my wifes phone, I gave up, wireless was not worth it enough for me to go through the hassle of reset this, clear that etc…
gertrunde 3y ago
I have wireless android auto with a built in conveniently placed holder for the phone that does wireless charging, and 95% of the time I still plug the phone in anyway. Not really sure why!
- lycopodiopsida 3y ago
  Me neither - I have not used a cable connection once in 3 years I have my current car. Do not even have a lightning cable in the car. But hey, people are different!
- filcuk 3y ago
  My wireless degrades music quality very noticeably - really annoying. I have a crappy dongle though, not sure if that's the case with all wireless.
dontlaugh 3y ago
Don't you need to plug in your phone anyway to charge it? And what about switching drivers and quickly switching phones? Or just having the passenger quickly switch to their music.
- antoinealb 3y ago
  Well a lot of cars have a wireless charging pad available in the phone holder, so you just drop your phone there and it starts charging / connects to Android Auto.
  - lycopodiopsida 3y ago
    Tbh, the charging pad is bad, if I would rely on it a lot, I would keep a cable in the car. I don't know why, but it heats up so much if you use it, that the iphone overheats and starts to throttle.
- lycopodiopsida 3y ago
  I have a build-in charging pad, which I almost never use, since modern smartphone batteries are just good enough to survive a day. Every driver (me and my wife) is in the system and car selects the iphone available in the car, but I can also switch it manually if required. The passengers have in general to stay off my infotainment system, they can do whatever they want in their own car :)
- smileysteve 3y ago
  Why do you need to charge a phone every minute? Most car trips are under an hour long, and many phones have batteries that last 18-24 hours. Personally, I mostly never use a car charger unless my phone missed the wireless charger that night.

gambiting 3y ago

Tbf, I don't know why people get hung up on this, I see this on Volvo forums all the time as well - you can literally get a £50 adapter, leave it plugged in inside your armrest and voila, you have wireless carplay. It literally "just works". Should the car already come with it installed? Yes. Is it a big deal to rectify? No.

lycopodiopsida 3y ago
I am not buying a 60k EUR worth new car to fiddle with adapters. It is almost 2024, wireless carplay is a figured out thing since years. If they cannot solve it, they will not get my money, it is as simple as that. If anything, customers should punish manufacturers more for such bullsh*t, not less. Because current behavior let them believe they can get away with anything, thus this thread.
- gambiting 3y ago
  >>I am not buying a 60k EUR worth new car to fiddle with adapters. I mean, that's absolutely fair - I'm just saying that this is such a trivial issue to fix that it's not even worth worrying about(IMHO).
  - lycopodiopsida 3y ago
    I think it is exactly the other way around. My brother was long time working for a big car manufacturer, and citing him "it is quite an achievement these days to make a car which drives genuinely bad". And it is true, especially given the move to EV and that with an increasing age my desire to drive a car past 160 km/h and in sports mode is basically 0. So, where a car still can collect bonus points is infotainment and interior in general. If you offer some touchscreen-blandness, you have to go down with the price significantly, because I see where money was spared. I use the built-in wireless CarPlay daily, so I expect it to work without occupying myself with fixing Volvo's incompetence.
RockRobotRock 3y ago
>you can literally get a £50 adapter, leave it plugged in inside your armrest and voila, you have wireless carplay. It literally "just works". I'm thankful for whichever Chinese engineers reversed the protocol for CarPlay to make this work. But my experience with these adapters is they are more fiddly than you're describing.
- gambiting 3y ago
  I mean I have one for wireless android auto and it does just work, it's plugged in, I never have to think about it or worry about it, it just pops up on my screen as if it was built into the car. Maybe the CarPlay ones are more fiddly, I'm not sure.
  - RockRobotRock 3y ago
    When I said CarPlay I meant that my particular adapter had reverse engineered the CarPlay protocol to communicate with the car over USB. It can do wireless android auto as well.
- NordSteve 3y ago
  My aftermarket Carplay adapter works 100% of the time. Need to make sure both the car and phone Bluetooth aren't paired, then works great.
nickthegreek 3y ago
Didn't know these adapters were a thing! Just went to amazon and snagged one for $25.
thrixton 3y ago
They don’t all just work, I tried the most popular one (CarLinkIt) and it didn’t work with mine or my wifes phone, I gave up, wireless was not worth it enough for me to go through the hassle of reset this, clear that etc…

gertrunde 3y ago

I have wireless android auto with a built in conveniently placed holder for the phone that does wireless charging, and 95% of the time I still plug the phone in anyway. Not really sure why!

lycopodiopsida 3y ago
Me neither - I have not used a cable connection once in 3 years I have my current car. Do not even have a lightning cable in the car. But hey, people are different!
filcuk 3y ago
My wireless degrades music quality very noticeably - really annoying. I have a crappy dongle though, not sure if that's the case with all wireless.

dontlaugh 3y ago

Don't you need to plug in your phone anyway to charge it? And what about switching drivers and quickly switching phones? Or just having the passenger quickly switch to their music.

antoinealb 3y ago
Well a lot of cars have a wireless charging pad available in the phone holder, so you just drop your phone there and it starts charging / connects to Android Auto.
- lycopodiopsida 3y ago
  Tbh, the charging pad is bad, if I would rely on it a lot, I would keep a cable in the car. I don't know why, but it heats up so much if you use it, that the iphone overheats and starts to throttle.
lycopodiopsida 3y ago
I have a build-in charging pad, which I almost never use, since modern smartphone batteries are just good enough to survive a day. Every driver (me and my wife) is in the system and car selects the iphone available in the car, but I can also switch it manually if required. The passengers have in general to stay off my infotainment system, they can do whatever they want in their own car :)
smileysteve 3y ago
Why do you need to charge a phone every minute? Most car trips are under an hour long, and many phones have batteries that last 18-24 hours. Personally, I mostly never use a car charger unless my phone missed the wireless charger that night.