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You normally would have to go through two security checks and a standard boarding check to get on that flight. Maybe he got out on the tarmac and somehow just w

You normally would have to go through two security checks and a standard boarding check to get on that flight. Maybe he got out on the tarmac and somehow just walked to the plane.

qingdao99 3y ago
I've always thought that you could probably just walk off somewhere else once you're on the tarmac.
- throwaway4good 3y ago
  There are people watching you and a rope marking where you are allowed to walk ... maybe if you wear a yellow west.
  - dannyw 3y ago
    Humans are bad at watching out for rare possibilities, particularly when their job is repetitive, even moreso if they’re sleep deprived or simply zoned out for a bit. I bet if you try this, you’d have a >3% chance of succeeding… and probably >33% with a vest, no hand luggage, and actively talking on the radio. Dress as law enforcement, and you’ll have a 100% success rate.
- saiya-jin 3y ago
  Yeah try that sometime, because a random wandering clueless person which doesn't wear usual bright airport staff clothing wouldn't be visible form a mile for everybody who cares to look, and there are always staff folks driving around with radios. You would stick out a lot. It doesn't mean that you will never ever succeed (that swiss cheese model mentioned elsewhere), but most probably (at least in western countries and modern airports) you will be caught quickly and go straight to airport jail. Or if you somehow make it then walk into airplane which is actually fully booked, probably same result. That being said I once had a very stressful situation in the middle of the night in Mombasa, Kenya where I was changing flight to Tanzania, but directions where to go within airport were vague, random staff didn't have a clue and when I arrived at the door to buses the staff/stewardess just told me to wait. I waited and waited till departure time, they didn't care at all about me and my increasingly urgent questions. I raised this with some random airport staff who was just running around, he just yelled at that staff and took me running straight through runways in heavy rain to the correct flight which was about to depart with aircraft door already closed. This was 2011. Impossible in the west, maybe now even there.
Symbiote 3y ago
Two checks? What is the second?
- throwaway4good 3y ago
  Passport check for exiting Schengen.
  - midasuni 3y ago
    I suspect most people think “metal detector” when they see “security check”. Documentation checks can occur at many points, from a shop wanting your boarding pass so they can claim the tax back, to the lounge to check your right of entry, to scanners at queues measuring waiting time, to checkin when dropping your bags Different people check different documents for different reasons. I’ve had a police passport check post X-ray at Manchester in the past, the U.K. doesn’t typically do exit checks, preferring to rely on API. Schengen does, but sometimes they don’t stamp you on the way out which can be a right pain^W brexit bonus. Then there’s all the loopholes, like Brussels-Lille on Eurosta, where I believe you can get a schengen exit stamp but never actually leave schengen (two tickets from Brussels, one to Lille, one to London, use the london one, get the stamp, but then leave at Lille with your Lille ticket. Perhaps done with an accomplice if the Lille ticket needs stamping at Brussels, I’ve never done that route before.

You normally would have to go through two security checks and a standard boarding check to get on that flight. Maybe he got out on the tarmac and somehow just walked to the plane.

qingdao99 3y ago

I've always thought that you could probably just walk off somewhere else once you're on the tarmac.

throwaway4good 3y ago
There are people watching you and a rope marking where you are allowed to walk ... maybe if you wear a yellow west.
- dannyw 3y ago
  Humans are bad at watching out for rare possibilities, particularly when their job is repetitive, even moreso if they’re sleep deprived or simply zoned out for a bit. I bet if you try this, you’d have a >3% chance of succeeding… and probably >33% with a vest, no hand luggage, and actively talking on the radio. Dress as law enforcement, and you’ll have a 100% success rate.
saiya-jin 3y ago
Yeah try that sometime, because a random wandering clueless person which doesn't wear usual bright airport staff clothing wouldn't be visible form a mile for everybody who cares to look, and there are always staff folks driving around with radios. You would stick out a lot. It doesn't mean that you will never ever succeed (that swiss cheese model mentioned elsewhere), but most probably (at least in western countries and modern airports) you will be caught quickly and go straight to airport jail. Or if you somehow make it then walk into airplane which is actually fully booked, probably same result. That being said I once had a very stressful situation in the middle of the night in Mombasa, Kenya where I was changing flight to Tanzania, but directions where to go within airport were vague, random staff didn't have a clue and when I arrived at the door to buses the staff/stewardess just told me to wait. I waited and waited till departure time, they didn't care at all about me and my increasingly urgent questions. I raised this with some random airport staff who was just running around, he just yelled at that staff and took me running straight through runways in heavy rain to the correct flight which was about to depart with aircraft door already closed. This was 2011. Impossible in the west, maybe now even there.

Symbiote 3y ago

Two checks? What is the second?

throwaway4good 3y ago
Passport check for exiting Schengen.
- midasuni 3y ago
  I suspect most people think “metal detector” when they see “security check”. Documentation checks can occur at many points, from a shop wanting your boarding pass so they can claim the tax back, to the lounge to check your right of entry, to scanners at queues measuring waiting time, to checkin when dropping your bags Different people check different documents for different reasons. I’ve had a police passport check post X-ray at Manchester in the past, the U.K. doesn’t typically do exit checks, preferring to rely on API. Schengen does, but sometimes they don’t stamp you on the way out which can be a right pain^W brexit bonus. Then there’s all the loopholes, like Brussels-Lille on Eurosta, where I believe you can get a schengen exit stamp but never actually leave schengen (two tickets from Brussels, one to Lille, one to London, use the london one, get the stamp, but then leave at Lille with your Lille ticket. Perhaps done with an accomplice if the Lille ticket needs stamping at Brussels, I’ve never done that route before.