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I guess they should then ban any app that has access to the internet, including Safari, I can find Alex Jones there, I should be protected! edit: And if it is

by ssijak 3y ago

I guess they should then ban any app that has access to the internet, including Safari, I can find Alex Jones there, I should be protected! edit: And if it is not obvious, I don't endorse nor do I like Alex Jones. I'm just pointing that banning X from appstore because Alex Jones is on the platform (with other XXX milions of users) is illogical and dangerous.

viraptor 3y ago
There's a spectrum between banning everything that can potentially get content about Alex Jones when the user searches for him explicitly, and banning apps which actively promote Alex Jones. You're bringing up an extreme idea which is not mentioned anywhere in the article.
- ssijak 3y ago
  You can block Alex Jones on X and be done with it, which I am doing with low quality/conspiracy/spam content that pops up. What I'm trying to say is that I am grown up and I can police my space myself, I don't need a corporation to do it for me in this cases. I would be ok with a ban if like 90%+ content on an app is obnoxious or scammy. But X has hundreds of millions of users. A lot of them are like Alex Jones, but much more of them are not. To be honest, I can more easily, or am recommended more often obnoxious stuff on Facebook (which I stopped using), Reddit, or Instagram (stopped using, but it also promote fake identities and generates a lot of mental health issues, especially for younger girls), and don't get me on TikTok (which I refuse to create an account on ever) which is an ultimate cesspool of a network. There is also Telegram with thousands of groups sharing smutty war stuff and hard core propaganda. Why don't we ban all of them then? Any network with more than 100 users because at least one at that point will be obnoxious or a sociopath or somebody with view most of us would not agree with?
  - viraptor 3y ago
    > A lot of them are like Alex Jones, but much more of them are not. Sure, but which ones are provided to you as choices when you open an account with no context? A few weeks ago people were doing some sampling of that and ended up with almost entirely right/far-right lists. I wouldn't be surprised if Alex joined that list soon. (He's on it indirectly already since Elon is recommended)
  - jfengel 3y ago
    Can you also block harassment and death threats from Jones' readers, after he accused you of being a "crisis actor"? Cuz that's what happened to some of the Sandy Hook families. That harm was valued in the hundreds of millions of dollars by the court, though Jones has yet to pay any of it. Unfortunately, blocking somebody doesn't always mean you're done with it.
  - DougN7 3y ago
    > What I'm trying to say is that I am grown up and I can police my space myself I’m not worried about you because you appear to think. I am worried about the millions of people out there that simply believe whatever they are fed (some of them are my friends). Not sure if censorship is the answer, but we have to figure something out so we don’t slip into very big problems because of the mindless masses.
- 112233 3y ago
  This is a reasonable, balanced view. And then you remember apple banning 3rd party reddit clients for not preventing access to yuck, while apple books and itunes and music is constantly promoting soft-yuck covers at you no problem.

by ssijak 3y ago

viraptor 3y ago

There's a spectrum between banning everything that can potentially get content about Alex Jones when the user searches for him explicitly, and banning apps which actively promote Alex Jones. You're bringing up an extreme idea which is not mentioned anywhere in the article.

ssijak 3y ago
You can block Alex Jones on X and be done with it, which I am doing with low quality/conspiracy/spam content that pops up. What I'm trying to say is that I am grown up and I can police my space myself, I don't need a corporation to do it for me in this cases. I would be ok with a ban if like 90%+ content on an app is obnoxious or scammy. But X has hundreds of millions of users. A lot of them are like Alex Jones, but much more of them are not. To be honest, I can more easily, or am recommended more often obnoxious stuff on Facebook (which I stopped using), Reddit, or Instagram (stopped using, but it also promote fake identities and generates a lot of mental health issues, especially for younger girls), and don't get me on TikTok (which I refuse to create an account on ever) which is an ultimate cesspool of a network. There is also Telegram with thousands of groups sharing smutty war stuff and hard core propaganda. Why don't we ban all of them then? Any network with more than 100 users because at least one at that point will be obnoxious or a sociopath or somebody with view most of us would not agree with?
- viraptor 3y ago
  > A lot of them are like Alex Jones, but much more of them are not. Sure, but which ones are provided to you as choices when you open an account with no context? A few weeks ago people were doing some sampling of that and ended up with almost entirely right/far-right lists. I wouldn't be surprised if Alex joined that list soon. (He's on it indirectly already since Elon is recommended)
- jfengel 3y ago
  Can you also block harassment and death threats from Jones' readers, after he accused you of being a "crisis actor"? Cuz that's what happened to some of the Sandy Hook families. That harm was valued in the hundreds of millions of dollars by the court, though Jones has yet to pay any of it. Unfortunately, blocking somebody doesn't always mean you're done with it.
- DougN7 3y ago
  > What I'm trying to say is that I am grown up and I can police my space myself I’m not worried about you because you appear to think. I am worried about the millions of people out there that simply believe whatever they are fed (some of them are my friends). Not sure if censorship is the answer, but we have to figure something out so we don’t slip into very big problems because of the mindless masses.
112233 3y ago
This is a reasonable, balanced view. And then you remember apple banning 3rd party reddit clients for not preventing access to yuck, while apple books and itunes and music is constantly promoting soft-yuck covers at you no problem.