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Maybe you missed them, but there are actually physical buttons in a Tesla, I use the tactile physical buttons constantly, the scroll wheels to control volume /

Maybe you missed them, but there are actually physical buttons in a Tesla, I use the tactile physical buttons constantly, the scroll wheels to control volume / audio and cruise. The other common buttons are turn signals which are under your left thumb and have tactile feedback. What other buttons are you pushing constantly?

drdaeman 3y ago
IIRC, AC controls are only available through the touchscreen, not through any physical dials or buttons. (In my Honda, I operate AC by touch - I remember the physical button layout for the essentials like rear window heating, and the knobs have a grove that can be read by fingers without looking).
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- speedgoose 3y ago
  I understand the argument and read it often on HN. I just want to mention that you can have muscle memory on touchscreen too. If you use a smartphone you probably can write without looking. It’s a bit the same with the car touchscreen. I don’t notice big differences when I aim for a virtual button on the car touchscreen and a physical button. For seldomly used buttons, I give a brief quick look both for virtual and physical.
  - switch007 3y ago
    > I just want to mention that you can have muscle memory on touchscreen too Wish that were true for me.
  - mgarfias 3y ago
    Sure. But 1) they need to stop moving the controls around with every update 2) there’s no tactile feedback- you have to take your eyes off the road to confirm your press worked
    - drdaeman 3y ago
      It's hard to implement the tactile feedback, but I have no idea why they don't have audio feedback. Just make an option to make the damn buttons click, etc.
mgarfias 3y ago
HVAC controls: on my truck I reach down by feel and turn a knob. Can’t do that anymore n the Tesla. Wiper controls: yeah I can trigger them with the button on the end of the stalk. But I gotta turn my head to adjust the speed after pushing said button. Head/fog lights. That’s just thinking about it for a few seconds.

drdaeman 3y ago

IIRC, AC controls are only available through the touchscreen, not through any physical dials or buttons. (In my Honda, I operate AC by touch - I remember the physical button layout for the essentials like rear window heating, and the knobs have a grove that can be read by fingers without looking).

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speedgoose 3y ago
I understand the argument and read it often on HN. I just want to mention that you can have muscle memory on touchscreen too. If you use a smartphone you probably can write without looking. It’s a bit the same with the car touchscreen. I don’t notice big differences when I aim for a virtual button on the car touchscreen and a physical button. For seldomly used buttons, I give a brief quick look both for virtual and physical.
- switch007 3y ago
  > I just want to mention that you can have muscle memory on touchscreen too Wish that were true for me.
- mgarfias 3y ago
  Sure. But 1) they need to stop moving the controls around with every update 2) there’s no tactile feedback- you have to take your eyes off the road to confirm your press worked
  - drdaeman 3y ago
    It's hard to implement the tactile feedback, but I have no idea why they don't have audio feedback. Just make an option to make the damn buttons click, etc.

mgarfias 3y ago

HVAC controls: on my truck I reach down by feel and turn a knob. Can’t do that anymore n the Tesla. Wiper controls: yeah I can trigger them with the button on the end of the stalk. But I gotta turn my head to adjust the speed after pushing said button. Head/fog lights. That’s just thinking about it for a few seconds.