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It’s an absolute shame that Steve Huffman ruined Reddit by way of the destruction of Apollo. I quit Reddit a few years earlier but this was the nail in the coff

by mattl 3y ago

It’s an absolute shame that Steve Huffman ruined Reddit by way of the destruction of Apollo. I quit Reddit a few years earlier but this was the nail in the coffin.

TobyTheDog123 3y ago
Apollo is one of the few reasons I shell out the $100/year for an Apple Developer Account. If someone is even mildly technical I'd recommend going the Sideloadly route for getting Apollo, ad-free/background-play YouTube, ad-free/backgroun-play Twitch, and ad-free Spotify.
- davkan 3y ago
  You can use altstore to sideload those for free, or at least i know you can for uyou+.
  - Gareth321 3y ago
    I believe there are two large caveats with Altstore. 1) It requires the use of a local "server" to phone home on a weekly basis. That means setting up and running another computer in the home, then configuring a regular check-in. Remote check-in (such as while traveling) sounds even more complicated. 2) There is a limit of three apps.
    - extraduder_ire 3y ago
      There is (was?) a sideloadable app called "reprovision" that did the re-signing on your device without needing to do a reinstall every time. Was useful for keeping a jailbreak app on an ipad 6. Worked great as long as I didn't turn the device off for over a week. Looking forward to the EU's sideloading rules coming in though, so I never have to deal with this.
- mattl 3y ago
  That’s good to know. spez really dropped a bollock on this.
  - spiderice 3y ago
    [flagged]
- hmcdona1 3y ago
  The recent overhaul of Narwhal for version 2 reworked the entire app to operate pretty close to what Apollo was at its core. It's extremely customizable as well. Their new subscription plan for covering the API costs is pretty fair and would be cheaper than what you are doing here.
  - TobyTheDog123 3y ago
    I'm glad there's a spiritual successor to Apollo, but it's not entirely about comparing one cost to one cost. - Spotify: $10.99/mo ($132/yr) YouTube: $13.99/mo ($168/yr) Twitch: $11.99/mo ($144/yr) Narwhal: $6/mo ($72/yr) - You'd be right, the $72/yr for Narwhal is less than the $100/yr developer certificate, but with all of the other sideloading opportunities it's no contest w.r.t cost.
- ec109685 3y ago
  Why not pay for Spotify and YouTube Premium?
  - Gareth321 3y ago
    I can't speak for them but my YouTube experience is in the toilet as of late. I've been a Premium subscriber for years now and they just keep making the apps worse. I can't even turn off shorts anymore. Despite paying for an "ad free experience," they serve me this shit: * In-feed ads. These include ads for content prominence (preferential placement for creators), articles with link-out, ads for Google products and services like purchasing movies and shows in their store, and ads for Google product features. * Modal ads in videos which they facilitate. That is, pop-up ads in content. * Ads for merchandise under the content. * Ads for paid subscription to channels. * In-content ads in the form of creator sponsorships. These are becoming egregious. At this point my experience is infinitely better with another front end which bundles SponsorBlock. Why am I paying for a FAR worse experience on their app? Their family subscription is not cheap where I live.
  - TobyTheDog123 3y ago
    Why would I?
    - ec109685 3y ago
      Because it’s a pretty good deal and part of your fees go to the creators whose content you’re consuming.
joemi 3y ago
I've noticed no change to the subreddits I'm active in. Obviously there was change when everyone was making a fuss, but now that that's died down, it seems like it never happened.
- jangxx 3y ago
  Interesting that you say that, in my subjective experience the overall quality of submissions and discussions has dropped significantly. I don't have any data about this of course, but the site just doesn't really capture my attention anymore the way it once did, and it's mostly down to the comments just not being an interesting read anymore (for me).
  - joemi 3y ago
    It really all depends on the subreddits and what each individual got from it to begin with.
- ThatMedicIsASpy 3y ago
  Some folks use a phone for everything. I just can't stand it and have never touched reddit on a phone. But I hate everything web and phone related. It's just too small for me.
- realusername 3y ago
  I've noticed some very big changes on my side, especially in terms of quality. That's actually the reason I'm about to delete my account, the good contributors somehow left.

by mattl 3y ago

It’s an absolute shame that Steve Huffman ruined Reddit by way of the destruction of Apollo. I quit Reddit a few years earlier but this was the nail in the coffin.

TobyTheDog123 3y ago

Apollo is one of the few reasons I shell out the $100/year for an Apple Developer Account. If someone is even mildly technical I'd recommend going the Sideloadly route for getting Apollo, ad-free/background-play YouTube, ad-free/backgroun-play Twitch, and ad-free Spotify.

davkan 3y ago
You can use altstore to sideload those for free, or at least i know you can for uyou+.
- Gareth321 3y ago
  I believe there are two large caveats with Altstore. 1) It requires the use of a local "server" to phone home on a weekly basis. That means setting up and running another computer in the home, then configuring a regular check-in. Remote check-in (such as while traveling) sounds even more complicated. 2) There is a limit of three apps.
  - extraduder_ire 3y ago
    There is (was?) a sideloadable app called "reprovision" that did the re-signing on your device without needing to do a reinstall every time. Was useful for keeping a jailbreak app on an ipad 6. Worked great as long as I didn't turn the device off for over a week. Looking forward to the EU's sideloading rules coming in though, so I never have to deal with this.
mattl 3y ago
That’s good to know. spez really dropped a bollock on this.
- spiderice 3y ago
  [flagged]
hmcdona1 3y ago
The recent overhaul of Narwhal for version 2 reworked the entire app to operate pretty close to what Apollo was at its core. It's extremely customizable as well. Their new subscription plan for covering the API costs is pretty fair and would be cheaper than what you are doing here.
- TobyTheDog123 3y ago
  I'm glad there's a spiritual successor to Apollo, but it's not entirely about comparing one cost to one cost. - Spotify: $10.99/mo ($132/yr) YouTube: $13.99/mo ($168/yr) Twitch: $11.99/mo ($144/yr) Narwhal: $6/mo ($72/yr) - You'd be right, the $72/yr for Narwhal is less than the $100/yr developer certificate, but with all of the other sideloading opportunities it's no contest w.r.t cost.
ec109685 3y ago
Why not pay for Spotify and YouTube Premium?
- Gareth321 3y ago
  I can't speak for them but my YouTube experience is in the toilet as of late. I've been a Premium subscriber for years now and they just keep making the apps worse. I can't even turn off shorts anymore. Despite paying for an "ad free experience," they serve me this shit: * In-feed ads. These include ads for content prominence (preferential placement for creators), articles with link-out, ads for Google products and services like purchasing movies and shows in their store, and ads for Google product features. * Modal ads in videos which they facilitate. That is, pop-up ads in content. * Ads for merchandise under the content. * Ads for paid subscription to channels. * In-content ads in the form of creator sponsorships. These are becoming egregious. At this point my experience is infinitely better with another front end which bundles SponsorBlock. Why am I paying for a FAR worse experience on their app? Their family subscription is not cheap where I live.
- TobyTheDog123 3y ago
  Why would I?
  - ec109685 3y ago
    Because it’s a pretty good deal and part of your fees go to the creators whose content you’re consuming.

joemi 3y ago

I've noticed no change to the subreddits I'm active in. Obviously there was change when everyone was making a fuss, but now that that's died down, it seems like it never happened.

jangxx 3y ago
Interesting that you say that, in my subjective experience the overall quality of submissions and discussions has dropped significantly. I don't have any data about this of course, but the site just doesn't really capture my attention anymore the way it once did, and it's mostly down to the comments just not being an interesting read anymore (for me).
- joemi 3y ago
  It really all depends on the subreddits and what each individual got from it to begin with.
ThatMedicIsASpy 3y ago
Some folks use a phone for everything. I just can't stand it and have never touched reddit on a phone. But I hate everything web and phone related. It's just too small for me.
realusername 3y ago
I've noticed some very big changes on my side, especially in terms of quality. That's actually the reason I'm about to delete my account, the good contributors somehow left.