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It is more like complaining that Tesla wouldn't let you purchase electricity from a 3rd party that isn't sanctioned by Tesla.
by omeid2 3y ago
It is more like complaining that Tesla wouldn't let you purchase electricity from a 3rd party that isn't sanctioned by Tesla.
- scarface_74 3y agoAnd if you chose to buy a Tesla knowing they in advance?
- omeid2 3y agoAs long as Tesla isn't approaching a dual-poly or worst a monopoly, that is on me. But if the choice is between two car manufacturers because your work parking, your banks' branch access, your governments' departments driveways, the city halls where a lot of events are organised, and just about anywhere you want to go is designed to allow only cars from these two car manufacturers, then knowing "in advance" is pointless; because there is no real choice.
- scarface_74 3y agoYou literally have a choice between hundreds of different Android manufacturers including ones that use a completely “open” version of Android.
- omeid2 3y agoFirst, the main problem here is that Google is activelly colluding with manufacturers to keep the Google Play monopoly, second, and more importantly, many Apps doesn't work without Google Services or whatever it is called now on Android, some apps from Banks doesn't run on "root" or "open" version of Android even with Google Services. So it is not that simple.
- scarface_74 3y agoAnd what can you do with banking apps that you can’t do by going to their website? Beliefs have consequences. If you are one of the relatively few that value “openness” when the market has spoken otherwise, you have to deal with the consequences
- omeid2 3y agoGet instant notifications for purchases. Add card to my digital wallet. As for your claims about markets and openness, I am not sure what are you even trying to say.
- scarface_74 3y agoThat in the United States, 60% of the users don’t care about “openness” and buy iPhones and pay on average twice as much for the privilege.
- rezonant 3y agoGood that we have you here to speak on their behalf.
- omeid2 3y agoIn the absence of choice, making an assertion about one's preference is absurd.
- scarface_74 3y agoThey have a choice - dozens of Android phones with different degrees of “openness”
- _aavaa_ 3y agoWe, as a society, have already made many such decision where certain kinds of goods/services cannot be legally sold and certain business practices are deemed illegal, even if people would choose to knowingly buy them in advanced. It is unfortunately that the idea of people being allowed to do what they wish with the devices they purchased and, supposedly, own need is the side that needs justifying.
- scarface_74 3y agoYes because people not being able to run Linux on their Apple Pencil is such a severe societal problem that we need government intervention. Or could it be that geeks hate when people make their own choices based on their own free will and other people’s choices aren’t aligned to a relatively few geeks
- _aavaa_ 3y agoThe tone and hyperbole adds nothing to the discussion. You know very well that the argument is that companies should not have the right to dictate what you can and cannot do with your property. The world would be worse off if our ovens only operate for manufacturer-approved recipes since it would “increase oven reliability and safety”. Look at printers. Yes customers know the horrible situation before buying into it, but that in no way justifies their blatant power grab over what you can do with your own devices. The same for label makers. What those companies are doing should simply be illegal.