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Next, try addressing why they change all the time, and seemingly for no reason. It's infuriating. The latest inexplicable, surprise change happened when my App

Next, try addressing why they change all the time, and seemingly for no reason. It's infuriating. The latest inexplicable, surprise change happened when my Apple Watch updated overnight, I went to open control center the next morning to locate my phone which I had misplaced, and .... it wouldn't open. For 10 minutes I fiddled with this fucking thing, thinking I was going senile at one point, only to find out that Apple moved the control center trigger to the side (power) button, and swipe from below now does something completely different. No warning, no announcement, no nothing, and no way to revert to the old behavior which existed for years. Imagine walking into your car one morning and the operation of the pedals was suddenly reversed due to an automatic software update because some geekaroid at the car manufacturer thought it was a good idea. At this point I'm convinced they are making changes as a means to justify their existence. If I ran that company the project managers responsible for these breaking changes - and yes, unannounced UI changes are breaking changes - would all be fired.

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shutupnerd0000 3y ago
Imagine buying a wearable computer with automatic remote updates and thinking it will behave like an analog watch.
- wannacboatmovie 3y ago
  Actually, if one buys an appliance (which this is), I would expect and be fully okay with security updates only, and not for the basic means of operation/controls to change monthly.
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n8cpdx 3y ago
Overall I thought the watchOS changes were a huge upgrade to the visual design and power of the platform and its apps. But I still end up opening the wrong view (control center or app drawer) at least once a day. And it’s been months! If the choice is so unintuitive a reasonably fanboyish user doesn’t learn it after months, it’s probably the wrong choice.
- wannacboatmovie 3y ago
  And you just know it's configurable (just like the original iPad allowed you to change the behavior of the slide switch), but they simply chose not to.
  - anamexis 3y ago
    Interestingly, they did backtrack on removing the "swipe to change watch faces" functionality, and added back a configuration option for it today.
    - wlesieutre 3y ago
      Although I’m noticing that mine now brings up every watch face with the time set to 10:09 and then takes a moment to animate changing to the correct time. It looks really stupid with the solar face. And it doesn’t do it just once when a face first loads, it does it every time you switch faces. Hopefully a bug but I’m wondering if someone said “we made it so you can’t switch watch faces quickly, now we can reclaim that RAM and save it for widgets that you didn’t want.”
      - n8cpdx 3y ago
        I’ve also noticed issues with the time on the watch face being out of date. I’ve also seen the date be wrong. It’s a pretty serious flaw that doesn’t get talked about enough. Been around for months at least, I got burned in September and ~May of this year.
spike021 3y ago
I hate how they changed complication buttons in the last major update. It used to be if I raised my Watch I could immediately tap my timer complication and it'd open my timer app. Now it's like the screen is constantly partially transparent and tapping the complication doesn't do anything unless the watch is at exactly the right angle. So confusing.
- saagarjha 3y ago
  Isn't that how the always-on display has worked since forever?
  - spike021 3y ago
    Nah. I have a Series 6. It works distinctly differently ever since I upgraded to WatchOS 10 (I think that's the latest major version that released when the latest iOS major release came out).
xpe 3y ago
> Next, try addressing why they change all the time, and seemingly for no reason. It's infuriating. No, the "Modern iOS Navigation Patterns" (the title of this article) don't change all the time. Not even close. What you are talking about has to do with _buttons_ on watchOS. I strive to leave a wide wide berth for what people consider on-topic, but to me, this comment is an unrelated rant that will empirically crowd out discussion around the topic at hand: iOS navigation patterns. I'm here on this thread to learn about how to make better iOS apps.
xpe 3y ago
And then ... > At this point I'm convinced they are making changes as a means to justify their existence. I really hope this is humor and that you aren't convinced of this; that would a faulty generalization. There are plausible other interpretations. > If I ran that company the project managers responsible for these breaking changes - and yes, unannounced UI changes are breaking changes - would all be fired. 1. Apple regularly breaks expectations. What is a breaking change to some is often the expectation at Apple. 2. I challenge your assumption that this decision was a mistake. I would expect the pros and cons were calculated. 3. How do you know the decision didn't get approved by higher up the chain? 4. Even if it was a mistake, I challenge your claim that the appropriate response is to fire the managers. I would point you to a vast literature on effective modern management. My remaining points elaborate on this... 5. I disagree with what appears to be angry, impulsive decision to fire them. 6. These are people. I'm not seeing any indication that you value them. 7. Emotions and empathy aside, it would be in your interest to build a healthy culture where risk-taking is encouraged and one mistake doesn't get you fired. Everyone makes mistakes. And we can learn from them. (Yes, dishonesty and negligence gets you fired. And poor performance gets you fired, but this is not evaluated on the basis of only one mistake.) 8. I disagree with what appears to be a "I have everything I need to know about this" attitude. At the very least gather more information before you fire people. If you disagreed with the pro/con assessment, look into how that decision was made. What process(es) could be improved?
- saagarjha 3y ago
  You've created a very long list over what looks to be hyperbole until 'wannacboatmovie actually does end up in a position at Apple where they handle staffing.
  - xpe 3y ago
    I consider you lucky if you think the attitude about 'just fire the people that made mistakes' is hyperbole. It a common attitude, so when ^^ says it, I believe that is what they mean. Also, there is nothing wrong with a long list. And I'm not here for hyperbole.
lacrimacida 3y ago
I hate these updates that change things around and break muscle memory. And most likely by coincidence it happens at the most unappropriate times.

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shutupnerd0000 3y ago

Imagine buying a wearable computer with automatic remote updates and thinking it will behave like an analog watch.

wannacboatmovie 3y ago
Actually, if one buys an appliance (which this is), I would expect and be fully okay with security updates only, and not for the basic means of operation/controls to change monthly.
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n8cpdx 3y ago

Overall I thought the watchOS changes were a huge upgrade to the visual design and power of the platform and its apps. But I still end up opening the wrong view (control center or app drawer) at least once a day. And it’s been months! If the choice is so unintuitive a reasonably fanboyish user doesn’t learn it after months, it’s probably the wrong choice.

wannacboatmovie 3y ago
And you just know it's configurable (just like the original iPad allowed you to change the behavior of the slide switch), but they simply chose not to.
- anamexis 3y ago
  Interestingly, they did backtrack on removing the "swipe to change watch faces" functionality, and added back a configuration option for it today.
  - wlesieutre 3y ago
    Although I’m noticing that mine now brings up every watch face with the time set to 10:09 and then takes a moment to animate changing to the correct time. It looks really stupid with the solar face. And it doesn’t do it just once when a face first loads, it does it every time you switch faces. Hopefully a bug but I’m wondering if someone said “we made it so you can’t switch watch faces quickly, now we can reclaim that RAM and save it for widgets that you didn’t want.”
    - n8cpdx 3y ago
      I’ve also noticed issues with the time on the watch face being out of date. I’ve also seen the date be wrong. It’s a pretty serious flaw that doesn’t get talked about enough. Been around for months at least, I got burned in September and ~May of this year.

spike021 3y ago

I hate how they changed complication buttons in the last major update. It used to be if I raised my Watch I could immediately tap my timer complication and it'd open my timer app. Now it's like the screen is constantly partially transparent and tapping the complication doesn't do anything unless the watch is at exactly the right angle. So confusing.

saagarjha 3y ago
Isn't that how the always-on display has worked since forever?
- spike021 3y ago
  Nah. I have a Series 6. It works distinctly differently ever since I upgraded to WatchOS 10 (I think that's the latest major version that released when the latest iOS major release came out).

xpe 3y ago

> Next, try addressing why they change all the time, and seemingly for no reason. It's infuriating. No, the "Modern iOS Navigation Patterns" (the title of this article) don't change all the time. Not even close. What you are talking about has to do with _buttons_ on watchOS. I strive to leave a wide wide berth for what people consider on-topic, but to me, this comment is an unrelated rant that will empirically crowd out discussion around the topic at hand: iOS navigation patterns. I'm here on this thread to learn about how to make better iOS apps.

xpe 3y ago

And then ... > At this point I'm convinced they are making changes as a means to justify their existence. I really hope this is humor and that you aren't convinced of this; that would a faulty generalization. There are plausible other interpretations. > If I ran that company the project managers responsible for these breaking changes - and yes, unannounced UI changes are breaking changes - would all be fired. 1. Apple regularly breaks expectations. What is a breaking change to some is often the expectation at Apple. 2. I challenge your assumption that this decision was a mistake. I would expect the pros and cons were calculated. 3. How do you know the decision didn't get approved by higher up the chain? 4. Even if it was a mistake, I challenge your claim that the appropriate response is to fire the managers. I would point you to a vast literature on effective modern management. My remaining points elaborate on this... 5. I disagree with what appears to be angry, impulsive decision to fire them. 6. These are people. I'm not seeing any indication that you value them. 7. Emotions and empathy aside, it would be in your interest to build a healthy culture where risk-taking is encouraged and one mistake doesn't get you fired. Everyone makes mistakes. And we can learn from them. (Yes, dishonesty and negligence gets you fired. And poor performance gets you fired, but this is not evaluated on the basis of only one mistake.) 8. I disagree with what appears to be a "I have everything I need to know about this" attitude. At the very least gather more information before you fire people. If you disagreed with the pro/con assessment, look into how that decision was made. What process(es) could be improved?

saagarjha 3y ago
You've created a very long list over what looks to be hyperbole until 'wannacboatmovie actually does end up in a position at Apple where they handle staffing.
- xpe 3y ago
  I consider you lucky if you think the attitude about 'just fire the people that made mistakes' is hyperbole. It a common attitude, so when ^^ says it, I believe that is what they mean. Also, there is nothing wrong with a long list. And I'm not here for hyperbole.

lacrimacida 3y ago

I hate these updates that change things around and break muscle memory. And most likely by coincidence it happens at the most unappropriate times.