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This particular comment became the first Google search result (or 'featured snippet') for me for "What is Android Baseband" -- weirdly claiming to be posted fou

This particular comment became the first Google search result (or 'featured snippet') for me for "What is Android Baseband" -- weirdly claiming to be posted four hours ago when this comment was two hours old. That is mindblowing to me. Full credit to the poster for becoming the canonical answer, but I'm not sure how I feel about Google picking comments without even some kind of page-rank-weighted attempt at deciding what is 'best'.

deepsun 3y ago
Google still employs a lot of manual page rankings.
- rollcat 3y ago
  Also probably enough Googlers just hanging out on HN.
acaloiar 3y ago
Yikes. Google put my grug brain [1] synopsis on full display? Google, please use less grug brained explanation of baseband processors [2]. ty [1] https://grugbrain.dev/ https://grugbrain.dev/ [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseband_processor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseband_processor
voxelghost 3y ago
For me, googles 'featured snippet' for 'What is Android Baseband' is extracted from the almost unreadable https://www.mi.com/global/support/faq/details/KA-11986/ https://www.mi.com/global/support/faq/details/KA-11986/ I think the parent comment is almost more informative.
SushiHippie 3y ago
FastGPT from Kagi answers to this question: "Baseband is the firmware that controls the cellular radio functions of an Android device. It is responsible for things like connecting to mobile networks, making phone calls, and sending/receiving SMS messages. [1][2] The baseband firmware resides on the same storage (eMMC) as the Android operating system but runs independently on a separate baseband processor. It communicates with the Android OS through shared memory and AT commands. [3][4] Baseband versions are different from Android build numbers. The baseband version refers specifically to the firmware running the cellular radio hardware. [5] Baseband firmware has been found to contain vulnerabilities that could allow remote command execution if exploited. However, Android devices from reputable manufacturers like Google/Pixel generally receive frequent baseband updates to address such issues. [6][7][8]" [1] https://www.quora.com/What-do-baseband-version-and-kernel-version-mean-in-Android https://www.quora.com/What-do-baseband-version-and-kernel-ve... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidQuestions/comments/1wzmp7/what_are_all_the_different_pieces_of_android/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidQuestions/comments/1wzmp7/wh... [3] https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/219230/where-is-the-baseband-firmware-stored-and-how-does-android-interact-with-it https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/219230/where-is-... [4] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24569075/how-mobile-os-talks-to-baseband-os https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24569075/how-mobile-os-t... [5] https://forums.androidcentral.com/threads/difference-between-baseband-version-and-build-number.95728/ https://forums.androidcentral.com/threads/difference-between... [6] https://techcrunch.com/2019/11/08/android-baseband-flaws/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/11/08/android-baseband-flaws/ [7] https://www.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/11op7yz/remote_hijacking_via_baseband_processor/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/11op7yz/remote_... [8] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38616922 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38616922 And the last link is this hackernews post!

deepsun 3y ago

Google still employs a lot of manual page rankings.

rollcat 3y ago
Also probably enough Googlers just hanging out on HN.

acaloiar 3y ago

Yikes. Google put my grug brain [1] synopsis on full display? Google, please use less grug brained explanation of baseband processors [2]. ty [1] https://grugbrain.dev/ https://grugbrain.dev/ [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseband_processor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseband_processor

voxelghost 3y ago

For me, googles 'featured snippet' for 'What is Android Baseband' is extracted from the almost unreadable https://www.mi.com/global/support/faq/details/KA-11986/ https://www.mi.com/global/support/faq/details/KA-11986/ I think the parent comment is almost more informative.

SushiHippie 3y ago

FastGPT from Kagi answers to this question: "Baseband is the firmware that controls the cellular radio functions of an Android device. It is responsible for things like connecting to mobile networks, making phone calls, and sending/receiving SMS messages. [1][2] The baseband firmware resides on the same storage (eMMC) as the Android operating system but runs independently on a separate baseband processor. It communicates with the Android OS through shared memory and AT commands. [3][4] Baseband versions are different from Android build numbers. The baseband version refers specifically to the firmware running the cellular radio hardware. [5] Baseband firmware has been found to contain vulnerabilities that could allow remote command execution if exploited. However, Android devices from reputable manufacturers like Google/Pixel generally receive frequent baseband updates to address such issues. [6][7][8]" [1] https://www.quora.com/What-do-baseband-version-and-kernel-version-mean-in-Android https://www.quora.com/What-do-baseband-version-and-kernel-ve... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidQuestions/comments/1wzmp7/what_are_all_the_different_pieces_of_android/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidQuestions/comments/1wzmp7/wh... [3] https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/219230/where-is-the-baseband-firmware-stored-and-how-does-android-interact-with-it https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/219230/where-is-... [4] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24569075/how-mobile-os-talks-to-baseband-os https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24569075/how-mobile-os-t... [5] https://forums.androidcentral.com/threads/difference-between-baseband-version-and-build-number.95728/ https://forums.androidcentral.com/threads/difference-between... [6] https://techcrunch.com/2019/11/08/android-baseband-flaws/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/11/08/android-baseband-flaws/ [7] https://www.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/11op7yz/remote_hijacking_via_baseband_processor/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/11op7yz/remote_... [8] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38616922 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38616922 And the last link is this hackernews post!