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It’s not all cancers it’s specific cancers. Cancers aren’t monolithic: each type has different characteristics and risk factors, aka “Cancer is cancers not just

It’s not all cancers it’s specific cancers. Cancers aren’t monolithic: each type has different characteristics and risk factors, aka “Cancer is cancers not just a cancer.” > Drinking about 3.5 drinks a day doubles or even triples your risk of developing cancer of the mouth, pharynx, larynx and esophagus. Drinking about 3.5 drinks a day increases your risk of developing colorectal cancer and breast cancer by 1.5 times. The less alcohol you drink, the lower your cancer risk. https://cancer.ca/en/cancer-information/reduce-your-risk/limit-alcohol/some-sobering-facts-about-alcohol-and-cancer-risk#:~:text=Drinking%20about%203.5%20drinks%20a,the%20lower%20your%20cancer%20risk https://cancer.ca/en/cancer-information/reduce-your-risk/lim.... > Nearly 4% of cancers diagnosed worldwide in 2020 can be attributed to alcohol consumption, according to the World Health Organization. In the United States alone, about 75,000 cancer cases and 19,000 cancer deaths are estimated to be linked to alcohol each year. https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2023/cancer-alcohol-link-public-awareness#:~:text=Nearly%204%25%20of%20cancers%20diagnosed,linked%20to%20alcohol%20each%20year https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2023.... Most of the research is linked to specific types of cancers and alchohol: oropharynx, larynx, esophagus, liver, colon, rectum and breast cancer. Others, like skin cancers, pancreatic and prostate are in the “probably” category.

manmal 3y ago
One of the reasons for cancers in the oral & oropharynx region could be local acetaldehyde production after drinking: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7383267/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7383267/ Potentially that could be mitigated by acetaldehyde decomposing supplements, like Kislip or Acetium lozenges - supposedly they reduce ACH by up to 90%.
- happytiger 3y ago
  That’s extremely interesting I had no idea! Thank you.
  - monero-xmr 3y ago
    ZBiotics produces a probiotic that is a genetically modified bacteria that breaks down acetaldehyde. My wife is a biochemist and she says the science isn't totally bullshit. The reviews of it are mixed, but personally I have found it to be quite effective at reducing hangovers. https://zbiotics.com/ https://zbiotics.com/
ponector 3y ago
19000 cancer death linked to alkohol means your chances to be killed in road accident in US is x2 higher than to die from that type of cancer.
- YokoZar 3y ago
  Yes, road safety is a serious health problem. But if it's twice as hard to mitigate, that implies we should spend some effort on reducing alcohol deaths too.
  - ponector 3y ago
    Actually it is easy to mitigate if you have political will. Vision zero is a common approach which is working in EU. Or laws could be appended with requirements to install extra technical measures to the cars to prevent driving under influence and speeding. It is unclear for me why there is no hard speed limit installed into the cars, like 140km/h.
- happytiger 3y ago
  Is that more a commentary on what a meat grinder driving actually is rather than an argument against working to mitigate cancer risk?
  - ponector 3y ago
    The point is that it is unlikely someone will get alcohol related cancer. My anecdata is that people who has alcohol addiction are dying earlier, but not from cancer. Main causes of deaths are liver failures and drunk accidents(like freezing to death in winter or DUI).
    - happytiger 3y ago
      Well that’s certainly true. I’ve seen quite a few people mess their lives up or take an early check out because of the sauce in my time. But my understanding was that it has been difficult to directly link cancer and alcohol consumption causatively and it’s only been recent genetic research that’s opening up just how many cases are actually related. This study made the number go from 750k to more than 3 million globally, and as research improves I imagine that number will continue to grow. So, perhaps we shouldn’t so readily discount the link on the basis of its number of cases since we are only starting to have the science we need and the studies based on that science to create effective studies that aren’t based on correlative evidence. https://www.ndph.ox.ac.uk/news/new-genetic-study-confirms-that-alcohol-is-a-direct-cause-of-cancer https://www.ndph.ox.ac.uk/news/new-genetic-study-confirms-th...
monero-xmr 3y ago
19,000 is nothing! I thought the risk would be significantly higher.

manmal 3y ago

One of the reasons for cancers in the oral & oropharynx region could be local acetaldehyde production after drinking: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7383267/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7383267/ Potentially that could be mitigated by acetaldehyde decomposing supplements, like Kislip or Acetium lozenges - supposedly they reduce ACH by up to 90%.

happytiger 3y ago
That’s extremely interesting I had no idea! Thank you.
- monero-xmr 3y ago
  ZBiotics produces a probiotic that is a genetically modified bacteria that breaks down acetaldehyde. My wife is a biochemist and she says the science isn't totally bullshit. The reviews of it are mixed, but personally I have found it to be quite effective at reducing hangovers. https://zbiotics.com/ https://zbiotics.com/

ponector 3y ago

19000 cancer death linked to alkohol means your chances to be killed in road accident in US is x2 higher than to die from that type of cancer.

YokoZar 3y ago
Yes, road safety is a serious health problem. But if it's twice as hard to mitigate, that implies we should spend some effort on reducing alcohol deaths too.
- ponector 3y ago
  Actually it is easy to mitigate if you have political will. Vision zero is a common approach which is working in EU. Or laws could be appended with requirements to install extra technical measures to the cars to prevent driving under influence and speeding. It is unclear for me why there is no hard speed limit installed into the cars, like 140km/h.
happytiger 3y ago
Is that more a commentary on what a meat grinder driving actually is rather than an argument against working to mitigate cancer risk?
- ponector 3y ago
  The point is that it is unlikely someone will get alcohol related cancer. My anecdata is that people who has alcohol addiction are dying earlier, but not from cancer. Main causes of deaths are liver failures and drunk accidents(like freezing to death in winter or DUI).
  - happytiger 3y ago
    Well that’s certainly true. I’ve seen quite a few people mess their lives up or take an early check out because of the sauce in my time. But my understanding was that it has been difficult to directly link cancer and alcohol consumption causatively and it’s only been recent genetic research that’s opening up just how many cases are actually related. This study made the number go from 750k to more than 3 million globally, and as research improves I imagine that number will continue to grow. So, perhaps we shouldn’t so readily discount the link on the basis of its number of cases since we are only starting to have the science we need and the studies based on that science to create effective studies that aren’t based on correlative evidence. https://www.ndph.ox.ac.uk/news/new-genetic-study-confirms-that-alcohol-is-a-direct-cause-of-cancer https://www.ndph.ox.ac.uk/news/new-genetic-study-confirms-th...

monero-xmr 3y ago

19,000 is nothing! I thought the risk would be significantly higher.