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It's a ground invasion in which they tell civilians to evacuate beforehand. How much slower and more precise do you want them to get, given that Hamas is maybe

by nvm0n2 3y ago

It's a ground invasion in which they tell civilians to evacuate beforehand. How much slower and more precise do you want them to get, given that Hamas is maybe 10% of the population (so their supporter base is clearly much larger) and there's no clear distinction between fighters and the rest deliberately? It's hard to imagine specifics. Israel can't simply let them launch rockets forever. Iron Dome isn't 100% effective and more importantly there's a massive, orders of magnitude cost differential between attack and defense. Eventually Israel would run out of intercepter rockets (or the ability to afford them), and then Hamas can simply bomb Israel at will.

dragonwriter 3y ago
> It's a ground invasion in which they tell civilians to evacuate beforehand. As required by international law reaching back to the Hague Convention in 1907 (and with precedent earlier.) > given that Hamas is maybe 10% of the population Hamas is closer to 1% of the population (20-25,000 [0] out of 2.4 million population of Gaza.) [0] https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hamas_fto.html https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hamas_fto.html
- asylteltine 3y ago
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  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    > And international law also prohibits human shields and launching rockets from hospitals but guess you missed that one. No, I didn't. But no one here was arguing that Hamas should get credit for doing more than is minimally necessary without actually providing any reason to believe that, whereas they have for Israel. > Laws only get brought up when talking about Israel huh? Only Israel's defenders on HN call for it to get a clap on the back for the unusual morality and restraint of its actions.
metta2uall 3y ago
The vast majority civilians are getting killed & buried alive due to the aerial bombings where the IDF is trying to assassinate members of Hamas - they obviously don't give any warnings for such strikes. And the current offensive isn't a response to the rockets, which have been fired for years, but to the Hamas ground invasion, which the IDF should have been prepared for 24/7 & could have completely defeated.

by nvm0n2 3y ago

dragonwriter 3y ago

> It's a ground invasion in which they tell civilians to evacuate beforehand. As required by international law reaching back to the Hague Convention in 1907 (and with precedent earlier.) > given that Hamas is maybe 10% of the population Hamas is closer to 1% of the population (20-25,000 [0] out of 2.4 million population of Gaza.) [0] https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hamas_fto.html https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hamas_fto.html

asylteltine 3y ago
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- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > And international law also prohibits human shields and launching rockets from hospitals but guess you missed that one. No, I didn't. But no one here was arguing that Hamas should get credit for doing more than is minimally necessary without actually providing any reason to believe that, whereas they have for Israel. > Laws only get brought up when talking about Israel huh? Only Israel's defenders on HN call for it to get a clap on the back for the unusual morality and restraint of its actions.

metta2uall 3y ago

The vast majority civilians are getting killed & buried alive due to the aerial bombings where the IDF is trying to assassinate members of Hamas - they obviously don't give any warnings for such strikes. And the current offensive isn't a response to the rockets, which have been fired for years, but to the Hamas ground invasion, which the IDF should have been prepared for 24/7 & could have completely defeated.