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One big difference: Israel lives by the border of Gaza, right next to the terrorists that forged the October 7th attack. Meanwhile, the US had no border with
by anovick 3y ago
One big difference:
Israel lives by the border of Gaza, right next to the terrorists that forged the October 7th attack.
Meanwhile, the US had no border with the belligerent terrorist organization's societies (Iraq, Syria, ME).
Would the US allow a terrorist organization that both DECLARES, has CAPABILITIES to, and HAS DEMONSTRATED INTENT to harm its citizens to live by its borders, and threaten with continued assaults? hell no.
- lesuorac 3y agoDo you think the cartels have never kidnapped an american citizen or killed DEA agents?
- blaufast 3y agothe more i think about it, the cartels are a pretty good comparison
- slibhb 3y agoHow? The cartels want to make money through illegal means, they don't want to destroy America. The cartels studiously avoid killing Americans. When they do kill Americans, the leadership either kills the members who killed Americans or turns them in, e.g. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gulf-cartel-apologizes-americans-are-kidnapped-killed-mexico-rcna74242 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gulf-cartel-apologizes-...
- slibhb 3y agoIf Mexico-based cartels killed 1000 Americans and kidnapped 200, the US would send armed forces into Mexico in a heartbeat, probably with the support of the Mexican government. Of course the cartels don't do that, though, because their goal isn't to murder Americans and destroy America.
- anovick 3y agoAFAIK cartel gang members by the border of US aren't taught from young age that all US citizens are demons that stole something that belongs to them, and that their goal in life is to kill as many americans as possible. They also don't obtain and launch thousands of rockets at US cities, or go on 3,000-men raid of US cities by the border for the main objective of killing, hurting, kidnapping and instilling fear into US citizens. The comparison of cartels to terrorist militias like Hamas is ridiculous and reveals ignorance.
- dang 3y agoAs I explained in the pinned comment at the top (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38616662 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38616662) and my other posts in this thread, comments in this thread must not be in the spirit of battle, but rather of something more spacious within ourselves. It's not always possible to find that (for many legitimate reasons), but in that case it's best to refrain from posting until one can. I'm afraid your comments in this thread are crossing out of that and back in to the spirit of battle. This is 100% understandable and I get it, but we need something else in this discussion. The same goes for some of the commenters arguing against your position—my moderation point here is certainly not about agreeing with them and disagreeing with you (I add this because I know it can all too easily feel that way).
- 8ytecoder 3y agoAnd the US does operate closely with Mexican forces to root them out. In addition, the govt in Mexico is cooperative. If that is not the case, I think we’ll see a much more hostile response. https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2023/07/07/cooperation-between-united-states-and-mexican-law-enforcement-leads https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2023/07/07/cooperation-be...
- kif 3y agoThe US does have a history of helping fund terrorist organizations, just like Netanyahu has helped fund Hamas.